Sympathy, None

[teacake44]

About time the likes of O'Leary was bought back down to earth, (literally) greedy selfish, laughing all the way to the bank, fleecing passengers at every opportunity. Not any more, the boots are on the other feet. :0)

[barry1010]

Are you implying that the cheaper market uses all natural products that has no negative impact on the earth and environment? I think you'll find that the reverse is usually the case.

[Maydup]

There were over 4 million visitors to the UK last August. In just that month the spend was over 3 billion. Thats a lots of jobs in the tourism and hospitality industry which would never be supported by domestic visitors, or replaced by home manufacture of PPE. Whatever we think of O'Leary, he has a successful business that is at the heart of our economy. Like very many successful business leaders, they are automatically labelled as greedy by people who dont have the skills or drive to do it themselves. Some are born to lead others to follow .... and moan about it.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/leisureandtourism

[teacake44]

Over the next 2/3 years Brits may not have a choice but to spend their money here, so for sure we will see what that really does for our economy, I think in the long term it will be good news for our holiday industry. If it was left to O'Leary at the moment he would have all his fleet flying regardless of the danger, he's already said he needs to get going again in May, well my message to him would be tuff titty.

[teacake44]

12.24 No that's not what I'm saying, what I would say is that we need to step back and decide on, essential and none essential, and for the life of me can't think why we need luxury goods/ items to show off with, because that's all there made for.

[teacake44]

12.25 I'd much rather do without the 3 billion, than have 4 million people coming here with a percentage of covid once we get it under conroll, thanks.

[Maydup]

I agree with you about the volumes of visitors and the risks of reinfection in the near future. But I see no reason to be so unsympathetic with an entire sector's workforce and supporting services. The knock on effect of this should be concerning you, not giving you something to gloat about.

In a couple of months time when the furlough money will have to cease, what do you suggest the country does with and about the new unemployed?

[barry1010]

The goods I buy aren't showing off. I buy UK made products using natural materials, people have no idea how much they cost, they don't have labels and are not bling.
My ethos is to support UK craftspeople and buy goods made of natural materials sourced in the UK where possible. Leather and wool last for years and when they finally reach the end of their usefulness will biodegrade unlike nasty plastic shoes and microfibre fleeces. The carbon footprint is low, no airmiles and I am helping to keep UK people in work.
Such goods are expensive but I am not a fashion slave and much prefer the classical look but Joe Bloggs won't know how much my coat or shoes cost.

[teacake44]

I'm not unsympathetic to an entire work force, ( I've not said that) my thread is aimed at O'Leary. I have no problems with anyone who becomes a successful Business man/women, the problem I have is with the ones that put their wallet before morals and values, and sadly we see this happening. No one has yet said that the furlough will cease yet, but with all major set backs there will be casualties, but in the UK most will be helped, unlike many other countries.

[teacake44]

12.40 Then your luxury goods/ items are more of a quality nature, big difference than what I may be referring to, I also go for less tat, and by that I mean something you have to throw away within weeks, I would be more than happy to see all pound land shops and the like of not reopen.

[bookbinder]

https://www.independent.ie/business/ryanair-to-cut-3000-jobs-and-michael-oleary-to-take-50pc-paycut-as-airline-says-recovery-will-take-two-years-39172777.html

[calmck]

I live abroad and usually return to the UK three or four times a year. In the summer I bring the grandkids and we spend five days at a UK leisure centre, visit London for a theatre visit and shopping. Was booked for this year and received full refund from BA, theatre, hotel and leisure centre. Tea cake are you saying I am not welcome, by your arguments, to return to my country of citizenship

[teacake44]

13.01 No, But you may have to cut your travel down to may be one in the future, plus it may well be to expensive for some people to make so many airline trips.

[Maydup]

12.55 most will be helped. How?

Where exactly will the money come from to help the thousands of unemployed airline and hospitality workers?

[naomi24]

//the problem I have is with the ones that put their wallet before morals and values//

Businesses are not charities. People don’t work hard to build businesses on the premise that it isn’t going to be beneficial to them and it would be ridiculous to expect that. Business is the cornerstone of our society. It generates wealth. It’s what keeps the wheels turning. No business, no jobs, no taxes paid, no wealth anywhere. Result: disaster for the economy.

Yes, celebrating a business in trouble is really smart!

[sherrardk]

TC, you strike me as a selfish old bat, who, having lived your life as you saw fit, now wants to sit and gloat as millions of ordinary people try to get back to some sense of normality.

[calmck]

If I can continue to afford to travel I will. My travel will only be curtailed if, as now, there is a world wide restriction

[calmck]

I don’t necessarily agree with O’Leary’s business practices but that should not mean that those that use Ryanair should not

[teacake44]

13.08 You don't seem to know about the financial help you can get in the UK, and before anyone says its not enough, I would say I've never seen a report of anyone in the UK starve to death, unlike you see in other parts of the world. The UK economy is not totally reliant on the airline business, or totally reliant on any other one business, but the likes of Ryanair would make you believe so.

[teacake44]

13.10,13.12, and 13.17 Will be ignored so don't waste your effort :0)