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Are'nt british police wonderful.
Pretty sickening eh?
Anyone wish to defend their actions.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/ 11/29/brute-force-three-police-officers-beat-u p-handcuffed-iraq-war-veteran-115875-20934568/
Anyone wish to defend their actions.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/ 11/29/brute-force-three-police-officers-beat-u p-handcuffed-iraq-war-veteran-115875-20934568/
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Not condoning what they did, but I am sure the police must get sick to death of morons who go out at night, get totally drunk, then cause trouble, start fights, taunt the police, and are generally a pain in the neck.
By his own admission the guy says he was "totally leathered".
If he had just been slighly merry and had gone home quietly this would not have happened.
The police dont normaly come down hard on someone unless they are strongly provoked.
I have seen some of those programs on TV like "road wars" or "binge britain" and I have to say they way the public behave towards the police is disgraceful.
It is not surprising the police lose their rag every now and again, they are only human, trying to do their job, and they are confronted by people who just seem to want to look for a fight.
By his own admission the guy says he was "totally leathered".
If he had just been slighly merry and had gone home quietly this would not have happened.
The police dont normaly come down hard on someone unless they are strongly provoked.
I have seen some of those programs on TV like "road wars" or "binge britain" and I have to say they way the public behave towards the police is disgraceful.
It is not surprising the police lose their rag every now and again, they are only human, trying to do their job, and they are confronted by people who just seem to want to look for a fight.
What Ethel means is that you can't look at an incident like that and say, "they're all the same". These three balloons need kicking out of the Police. Particularly the one who repeatedly punched the guy in the head.
But not all officers are like this - I know because I was one. The vast majority of officers will be as shocked and appalled at this as you and I are.
To tar them all with the same brush over this terrible incident is both wrong and unfair.
But not all officers are like this - I know because I was one. The vast majority of officers will be as shocked and appalled at this as you and I are.
To tar them all with the same brush over this terrible incident is both wrong and unfair.
Can I say one more thing.
You put the headline "Are'nt british police wonderful" in a rather ironic way.
Maybe we should also ask "Are'nt the british public wonderful".
We regularly have loads of drunk people coming out of pubs and clubs every night, being sick in the street, going to the toilet in shop doorways, fighting, smashing shop windows, driving their car while drunk or drugged.
How would you like to deal with people like that night after night.
As I said, dont condone what the police did, but the behavoiur of some of the public is pretty sickening as well.
You put the headline "Are'nt british police wonderful" in a rather ironic way.
Maybe we should also ask "Are'nt the british public wonderful".
We regularly have loads of drunk people coming out of pubs and clubs every night, being sick in the street, going to the toilet in shop doorways, fighting, smashing shop windows, driving their car while drunk or drugged.
How would you like to deal with people like that night after night.
As I said, dont condone what the police did, but the behavoiur of some of the public is pretty sickening as well.
Whilst I agree that the policeman was wrong to beat him , I don't think that's the mentality of all police officers . I know several and they're upstanding , fair , and honest , and an asset to the Force , and are aware of how to deal with an abusive captive without causing injury or abusing their human rights .
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I meant that for you to criticise 'British Police' for that those three officers would have had to have been acting with the authority of the police force, in accordance with their training -following orders.
That is not how British Police are trained to behave, and they were not acting correctly.
Those three police officers are not wonderful. The British Police as a whole is.
I meant that for you to criticise 'British Police' for that those three officers would have had to have been acting with the authority of the police force, in accordance with their training -following orders.
That is not how British Police are trained to behave, and they were not acting correctly.
Those three police officers are not wonderful. The British Police as a whole is.
Pusspuss � Are you referring to CCTV footage a couple of years ago which showed PC Mulhall hitting Toni Comer in the arm in order to subdue her after she was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage to a car outside the Niche nightclub in Sheffield on July 30, 2006?
PC Mulhall was cleared by the IPCC. The IPCC investigation found the allegations that two officers assaulted Ms Comer were unsubstantiated and said PC Mulhall had used �justified and proportionate force� on someone who was actively resisting arrest.
Ms Comer later pleaded guilty to causing criminal damage and was given a conditional discharge and ordered to pay �250 compensation.
I hardly think this is �letting the police off�. An independent organisation found that Ms Comer was spitting, kicking and trying the bite the police officers, and they in turn used reasonable force to make an arrest.
PS. Pc Mulhall died in July 2008 after suffering serious head injuries in Snowdonia.
PC Mulhall was cleared by the IPCC. The IPCC investigation found the allegations that two officers assaulted Ms Comer were unsubstantiated and said PC Mulhall had used �justified and proportionate force� on someone who was actively resisting arrest.
Ms Comer later pleaded guilty to causing criminal damage and was given a conditional discharge and ordered to pay �250 compensation.
I hardly think this is �letting the police off�. An independent organisation found that Ms Comer was spitting, kicking and trying the bite the police officers, and they in turn used reasonable force to make an arrest.
PS. Pc Mulhall died in July 2008 after suffering serious head injuries in Snowdonia.
sorry the video of them kicking this man then smashing his head on the police van was removed long ago to help race relations
There was further pressure on Mr Todd in February 2004 when CCTV footage emerged which showed white GMP officers apparently kicking a black man on the ground in central Manchester - although the Independent Police Complaints Commission later decided there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against three officers involved.
they said the film was not clear . everyone who saw the video on tv saw it clearly
There was further pressure on Mr Todd in February 2004 when CCTV footage emerged which showed white GMP officers apparently kicking a black man on the ground in central Manchester - although the Independent Police Complaints Commission later decided there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges against three officers involved.
they said the film was not clear . everyone who saw the video on tv saw it clearly
I can�t comment on this because I�m unaware of this particular incident.
The only thing I will say (and I echo what VHG said earlier) is that when you�re on the front line and some drunken lunatic needs to be arrested for whatever reason, it�s very easy for people who have never had to carry out an arrest to look on and say, �ohh, that�s a bit excessive�.
Believe me, some people are so intent on not being arrested that they will spit, kick, punch, etc. police officers. Having been there, I think it�s entirely reasonable to use force to subdue a suspect. At the end of the day, police officers want to finish their shift in one piece and as such, they often go in mob handed to arrest someone because it�s the safest course of action.
I�m not sure what you want the police to do. In order to carry out their job, they sometimes have to use �reasonable� force. What is reasonable to one person is unreasonable to another. The police often have to make split second decisions. It�s very easy after the event to say, �they shouldn�t have done that�, but hindsight is 20-20 isn�t it?
The only thing I will say (and I echo what VHG said earlier) is that when you�re on the front line and some drunken lunatic needs to be arrested for whatever reason, it�s very easy for people who have never had to carry out an arrest to look on and say, �ohh, that�s a bit excessive�.
Believe me, some people are so intent on not being arrested that they will spit, kick, punch, etc. police officers. Having been there, I think it�s entirely reasonable to use force to subdue a suspect. At the end of the day, police officers want to finish their shift in one piece and as such, they often go in mob handed to arrest someone because it�s the safest course of action.
I�m not sure what you want the police to do. In order to carry out their job, they sometimes have to use �reasonable� force. What is reasonable to one person is unreasonable to another. The police often have to make split second decisions. It�s very easy after the event to say, �they shouldn�t have done that�, but hindsight is 20-20 isn�t it?
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