paedophiles and the threat

[BeatySwalls]

ok so I am soon to be a father and got into the subject of paedofiles and protecting your children. i personally feel that if you drink too much (without causing a crime) you can go get help. if you are mentally ill (which pedos are) you can go get help. you can seek help pretty much for anything apart from having paedofile thoughts. this must be to be due to how much the general public hates and acts on people like this.

does this mean that if paedofiles could say visit a pedos anonymous and get some treatment (if any) then this would reduce the problem? and may even reduce the deaths of some children?

i personally have no time or compassion for anyone that has committed an offence but would be willing for some of my tax money go into a fund to helping people who are at the stage of contemplating paedophilia. what do you think?

[paraffin]

The only "treatment" is removal of their b0llox with exceptionally sharp instruments!!!

[Schutzengel]

Agreed.

[danchip]

its a very good idea

however you have to wonder whether talking about it will stop them wanting to do it or if it will turn them on and make them want to do it even more

there is also the risk of the session becoming a time to brag about victims techniques how to get away with it etc

[BeatySwalls]

you see! thats the sort of attitude that segregates them into solitude and get more mentally unstable. and more likely to rape and kill childeren.

i believe in castration in offenders but thats not the question

[redcrx]

i was under the impression that they could get phsycological referrals if they had such thoughts, just as anyone feeling suicidal could.

i may be wrong.

of course, there would never be a group set up like AA, just look at the demonstrations outside abortion clinics, you couldnt police such a group

[janbee]

agreed, but with a very blunt very rusty hacksaw

[danchip]

i could just see a church hall with a sign outside saying "paedos anonymous" tonight

and a very angry mob forming at the entrance waiting for them to come out

[hc4361]

Castration is no good for female paedophiles. Nobody with those sort of thoughts would want it recorded on their medical records as there would be all sorts of implications if they become parents.

[BeatySwalls]

jojho

[BeatySwalls]

i mean... ok so 40 years ago there was queer bashing and the kkk. and if you prevented a pedo acting on his or her feelings then you would be in effect saving 2 lives. is it time to calm down the hatred and try help and only prosecute the guilty? i thought the human race was supposed to be evolving?

[hc4361]

This charity gives support and therapy to potential child abusers.
http://lucyfaithfull.org/

[BeatySwalls]

hc thats interesting. but they dont say they help only those that have not offended. i think if they have offended then they should be castrated.

[redcrx]

evolution cant really stop the protective instinct that a parent will feel towards their child.

there will always be such feelings towards anyone that abuses or hurts children.

I can see what you mean with your post and yes, it would be great if there was a way of helping these obviously sick people from carrying out the atrocities we hear about every day.
But as said already, do you really think that someone with such thoughts will go and see their GP?

[hc4361]

How can you castrate a woman sex offender?

[hc4361]

The GP has a legal duty to report where the person admitting to these thoughts have contact with children. So the poor unfortunate who has this attraction to children but would never act on it is left to flounder.
Nobody chooses to be that way inclined.

[jake-the-peg]

Castration of offenders does have some very good figures to back it up and I think it's currently under consideration.

However contrary to what you may think it does Not have a 100% success rate. It's mostly in the 90s

if you're interested there's some interesting stuff on it here:
http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/content/full/33/1/16/ T2

This would have to be done along the lines of a voluntary system probably along with a reduction in sentence.

It can not be used as a punishment

[BeatySwalls]

female castration is clitoral removal. they do it in muslim cultures right?

[paraffin]

Beaty:

Your question posed the scenario of those "contemplating paedophilia", whatever that means?

Have you ever, for example, heard of an offence called "Threats To Kill"? It can, in certain circumstances, carry a life sentence. (usually carries 10 years).

I'd suggest that those "contemplating paedophilia" fall into a similar category, for as far as I'm concerned the planned defilement of a child is no different: a life would be ruined forever.

And given the fact that the authorities would at some point release a convicted paedophile back amongst the unsuspecting public, my solution for the enforced removal of the paedo's sexual organs would at least ensure that they could not re-offend.

Having some well meaning shrinks, social workers and probation officers telling them not to do it again is akin to waving a red rag at a bull and in no way protects any vulnerable would-be-victim from the predatory instincts of a subhuman who still has the "tools"(no pun!) with which to do the job (again and again) ad infinitum.

The victim's rights must always supercede those of the offender, which is all too often not the case in this country.

[redcrx]

paraffin, i get what you mean, but some mums suffering from post natal depression have been known to have thoughts of harming a child (rare but does happen). would you have those women locked away for such a thing, or do you agree that they receive care and therapy and whatever else needed to help them?
i have to say though, i have no idea if thoughts of abusing children is in any way like the chemical and hormone imbalance that causes PND.

[Velvetee]

Not sure if it is classified as an illness, it's more of a sexual deviancy, a sexual perversion. These people think what they are doing is perfectly normal, almost like a lifestyle.