'Sausages' And 'Burgers'

[Atheist]

I understand that a meat organisation is objecting to the use of terms such as 'vegetarian sausages' and 'vegeburgers', feeling that they may mislead some people. Does anybody here think that such terms are misleading or liable to lead to bad dietary choices?

[New Judge]

Let's forget the names and their origin. Why are the two products I mentioned described as "meat style" and "just like the real thing" (as if vegetables are not the "real thing")? If manufacturers are catering for vegetarians and vegans who don't want to eat meat, why do they produce stuff that (they say) looks and tastes like meat? I don't eat cheese. But I don't want stuff that looks and tastes like cheese. Why call cheese & chips fish & chips? I just find it ridiculous.

[Mozz71]

I guess it's because veggies are veggies because of animal welfare reasons, rather than not liking the taste of meat. I still think that eating meat substitutes is cheating a bit. Show some conviction, eat some cauliflower instead.

[pixie374]

Nobody likes cauliflower. And no, there are different reasons why people become vegetarian, and something resembling meat, doesn't count, if it doesn't contain it.

[Mamyalynne]

I love cauli.

[pixie374]

Oh :-/

[Jackdaw33]

/Nobody likes cauliflower.\

I seriously beg to differ.

[pixie374]

Sorry.... everyone... x

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ, perhaps by producing meat-free burgers looking and tasting like meat, the hope is more folk might convert to a meat-free diet?

Regarding the hamburger and burger names, legislation differentiates between the types of meat they can contain.

[tonyav]

Battered cauliflower is lovely.

[douglas9401]

Cauliflower wrapped in meat-free bacon and drizzled with the tears of a child hankering for McNuggets is a delicacy in some circles.

Served with tofu cubes and a rice cake, what's not to love?

[tonyav]

Everything.

[New Judge]

Here I was, just about to thumb through the Telegraph having had a good night's kip, when this happens:

"...meat-free bacon"

https://lovingitvegan.com/vegan-bacon/

No, no no!!! Bacon is cured pork. You often see "turkey bacon". You can't make bacon from anything other than pork and you certainly can't make it from vegetables. Don't start me off - it's too early!! :-) :-)

[bhg481]

Is it any different from artificial leather/fake fur/artificial sheepskin etc? It's just using a familiar name to help people understand what it is a substitute for.

[iluvmargie]

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I sometimes eat vegetarian food as I quite like it and I couldn't care less what shape it takes or what it's called as long as it's tasty and nourishing and it usually is! I can't stand cauliflower though.

[Mozz71]

//Don't start me off//

All the veggies I know refer to it as "fake-on" which is a much more palatable term.

[pastafreak]

When I answered yesterday, I was thinking mostly in terms of fake meat products. The plant based concoctions that are marketed/manufactured to look and taste "just like the real thing" and are often located next to real meat burgers in supermarkets. I'm don't think they are aimed at long term vegans, but rather young people getting on the WFPB diet.
Whereas "vegetarian" and "vegan" in the name serve to clarify what they are.

[barry1010]

I suppose a sausage dog IS meat based

[barry1010]

Why do people who don't want to use sugar use artificial sweeteners?

[Mozz71]

Barry, I use sweeteners purely for health reasons. The same reason I don't drink any soft drink which isn't zero sugar.

[barry1010]

No different to vegans and vegetarians eating fake meat, Mozz.
Although vegetables are healthy (mostly), most artificial sweeteners are not.