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It's not that bad....ooh, that hurt....it's just that my wife and I like to do things in a no-fuss way together. Whereas the in-laws have more of a "Man Job/Woman Job" divide. He hovers around the kitchen waiting for orders (like breathe in, breathe out) while she desparately attempts to appear laid back (in a panicky way). When it comes to "Christmas Turkey Mode", they are both experts .....but go about it in such a fussy way. Yes, perhaps I should just go with the flow, and let them get on with it. It's only a turkey, after all. Plug in the Oddbins Dripfeed and reeelaxxx!!!!!