johntheplamfs answer in my ps3 post below

[bobtheturkey]

can i just direct people to it espcially the xbox lovers :) it seems the xbox is at its maximum and the ps3 is only scratching the surface :) still it will make a lovely book stand :)

[tracy6697]

Can I also point people to my reply to john answer which pulls apart his entire argument! ;o)

[johntheplamf]

Lol, but that's before i was in full possession of all the facts. Developers are really excited to be developing for PS3 as TDK has announced that it has developed a working Blu Ray disc that srores 200GB on a single sided, six layer disc. In comparison, DVD which X Box 360 usescurrently max out at 8.5GB, and as i said before, the standard Blu Ray Disc holds 50GB, so you can see where it becomes more powerful. The fact of the matter is, Sony will be making it's money back on downloads and games, because as it stands, it actually lost money for every console, because of the amount of different types of technology it has crammed in. Thanks to Blu Ray, you'll be able to play games at TRUE HD, which is basically 1080p, the top spec available.
Your move Tracey :)

[johntheplamf]

And here, on the XBox website no less, is a list of PS3 exclusives, read Unreal Tournament and weep :)
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=461 944

[johntheplamf]

If you remember right Tracey, one of the reviews you quoted me was that Assassins Creed wasn't a PS3 exclusive, and that infact, the developers said the AI on the X Box version was far better, yet on the XBox list it says, may be on X Box, not confirmed, Someone telling porkies? Hmmmmm? ;O)

[johntheplamf]

Here is in game footage of the, Is it going to be on X Box or not title :O)
http://assassinscreed.uk.ubi.com/

[johntheplamf]

As far as pure beat em ups go, try and not be impressed with the exclusive Heavenly Sword
http://uk.media.ps3.ign.com/media/700/700186/v ids_1.html

[johntheplamf]

And my final answer, to basically answer folk that reckon the PS3 games don't look as good as XBox, take a look at this, In game as well :O) Have a nice one young Tracey ;O)
http://uk.media.ps3.ign.com/media/826/826843/v ids_1.html

[tracy6697]

Erm, John, the assassins creed link, scroll the page down. What do you see right next to the PS3 logo? Ah, thats right, the Xbox 360 logo! I think that the developer is in a better position to decide what console it's games are on!
As for 1080p - maybe you haven't been keeping up, but the Xbox 360 can output this picture format. What the console can & can't do has nothing to do with the disc format it's on, these aren't movies. It's entirley down the processors inside the console.
As for Unreal 2007, someone needs to confirm this either way because I've seen this mentioned as both a PS3 exclusive and coming out on both!
Heavenly Sword? Yes, it looks good. Did you look up the other games I mentioned in the other thread?
Both consoles will have good (and bad!) games released for them!

[johntheplamf]

Erm, no, i'm a man and i'll only hear what i want to :O) I'll tell you a wee secret if you promise not to tell anyone, i actually have a 360, but i'm looking forward to the PS3 too. I've always done this and you get the best games for every format. :O)

[tracy6697]

LOL! Despite coming across as being completley anti Sony, I'm not. It's just that I fell into the hype of the PS2 and ended up being dissapointed with it on launch day and I felt like I'd wasted my money!
I just don't trust Sony. I'm waiting for the PS3 to prove it lives up (or comes close to) the hype before I decide to buy one! Even then it won't be until at least this time next year!

[johntheplamf]

The problem with that is, assuming you're waiting for it to come down in price, is that it won't come down until at least after next christmas, as i said before, Sony are actually losing money per console because of the amount of stuff they've crammed in. I'm just looking forward to it as a all in one media centre, where you can download films and over priced race tracks as well as the obvious quality of the games. And i must admit i only really came on here to wind you up cos i thought you were just totally anti sony lol

[tracy6697]

Looks like I'll be waiting a while then! The thing is I haven't got the time (or the money) to put into more than one console anymore. Last generation I owned all 4 consoles at one point before selling the PS2 & Gamecube (I'd have sold the Xbox too if Microsoft had sorted out decent backwards compatability on 360!).
If (and when) I buy a PS3 I'll have to sell the 360 so I have to be 100% sure.

[Mattk]

guys,bobtheturkey winds people up in the sport section and now it seems he has moved his targets to this one.

dont rise to it.

[johntheplamf]

Don't worry Tracy, i'll keep you well informed. Apparently on the PS3, you'll be able to download from the Sony store, any PS1 games, that and the fact you can play any PS2 games on it too, I'm just dead excited lol

[Llamatron]

You can't play any PS2 game on the PS3, apparently there's quite a few that wont work.

[johntheplamf]

Well you can play most of them, Sony have said there are a select few that you can't play.

[johntheplamf]

BTW tracy, you should maybe try out this site, really friendly people not afraid to express their opinions, you'll fit in well ;), It's actually a really good laugh.
http://www.phpbbserver.com/froggersworld/index .php?mforum=froggersworld
That goes for anyone reading this too BTW

[tracy6697]

Sony have admitted that around 200 games don't work at the moment (if these are PS2 and/or PS1 games isn't specified though). This could be fixed if the future via firmware updates:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_i d=70157

And as for downloading PS1 games, this sounds great in theory BUT are Sony only telling a half truth again? I assume all games they published will be available but how many 3rd party games will be on there? and how much will they cost?
Also this would only be of interest to me if I could buy the NTSC verions of the games. I always purchased imports for my original Playstation, mostly because I can't stand those nasty pal borders on games. If the Japanese versions of R-Type Delta & Einhander are on there though that would make me very happy!
Which also brings me to my other point - has Sony said either way if the Pal PS3 will run it's games full screen as standard (like the 360 does and so did the original Xbox)?
If I'm correct this is a non issue for HD TV owners but I only have a standard TV at the moment so this is a big issue for me and did put me off PS2 to be honest (Capcom being a main offender with rubbish Pal conversions e.g. Onimusha & the first Devil May Cry with borders that took up nearly half the screen!)

[johntheplamf]

Don't worry Tracy, if you go to that link above and down to techno and gadgets, i've posted a thread for PS3, and have been told in no uncertain terms how bad it's going to be, with proof and everything. can you imagine that? lol