anyone need help ?

[TheOtherHalf]

Im not doing any family trees at the moment and am really missing it. Does anyone need anything looking up please ?

[dotty.]

it took 30 seconds to find daisy, just used the familysearch.org site I've always used. check out the link I put up.

[slinkycat]

Looking for Annie Bathsheba Wheatley, born 19/11/1890 in Tabernacle Walk, Rodborough, Glos. I have her on the 1891 and 1901 census, then in 1908 she had a son (my grandfather) presumably out of wedlock as there is no father's name on the birth certificate.
She is still in the same street at that time, but I couldn't find her on the 1911 census, or any record of death.
Would be very grateful if you could find anything.

[trt]

Hi TheOtherHalf,

I have been looking to start my family tree for ages but they are asking me where and when my mother and father married in Manchester.

I was born in 1944 with a sister Beryl and brother Barry or Robert, both deceased.

My father was adopted and it comes back with not known. He was Robert Edward Turner and my mother was called Ellen/Helen Melia.

It would be very nice to give me a start, thanks.

[DaisyNonna]

Written it all down Dotty, don't trust myself on the computer.Thanks again Gx

[TheOtherHalf]

Lots of lovely people out there trying to find their ancestors just like me. I promise I will try to get back to you all. Im at work all day today so wont get chance to look properly. Please keep checking this post when you can.
Also thanks to the amazing Dotty for stepping in again also x

[bryher]

Thank you both for your time. I will try the link when I have a moment it will give me a shove in the right direction.

[dotty.]

ellen melia married Robert Edward Turner Q2 1933 ref 8d 163 South Manchester you can order a copy of their marriage certificate here for £9.00
http://www.gro.gov.uk...content/certificates/
It will take about 7 days to arrive back with you, then you're on your way trt.

[dotty.]

trt just a stab in the dark, but this could be Ellen on the 1911, do you have an age at death? Or names of any siblings?

1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Melia
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: South Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 46 Ann St Hulme Manchester
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Chorlton
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Piece: 23905
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Melia 26
Mabel Lydia Melia 24
Mabel Melia 3
Ellen Melia 1

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 23905; ; .

[TheOtherHalf]

4Q 1933 Beryl Turner South Manchester
2Q 1937 Robert E Turner South Manchester

[sammmo]

Thanks TOH Thanks Dotty..That gives me a bit more to go on

[TheOtherHalf]

Hi sammo, I cant seem to find anything else about them unless you can give a bit more info

[TheOtherHalf]

slinkycat- what is your ggfathers name ? We may be able to find her from that and do you know if she married ?

[slinkycat]

Hi TOH
My grandfathers name was Jack Ivan Wheatley. Have a feeling I looked for him on the 1911 census too, but its quite a while since I did any research.
As I said, Annie appears on the 1901 census, at that time she is living with her parents, John and Kate, plus 5 siblings, if that helps. Thanks.

[dotty.]

I have found Jack Ivan's birth registration and he and his mother are on 4 family trees on ancestry but none of the tree owners have anything for his mother apart from the 1901 and 1891. It's probably a poor transcription, because Jack himself should be on there, unless his mother was using another name by 1911 and was calling Jack by the same surname. But I can't find many of her siblings from the 1901 on the 1911 either, so it's not a straight forward one at all.

[jd_here]

Aloysious Marsh, born sometime around 1870, Birkenhead or Rock Ferry. My grandfather, know nothng about him or his family......TIA

[dotty.]

hi sammo, found the sister TOH spotted and a brother too:
George Sansom christening:18 Dec 1791 ELMORE,​GLOUCESTER,​ENGLAND
residence: Gloucester,​ England parents: Thos. Sansom,​ Elizh.

Hannah Sansam christening:06 Jun 1788 ELMORE,​GLOUCESTER,​ENGLAND
residence: Gloucester,​ England parents: Thos. Sansam,​ Elizh.

Benjamin Sansam christening:27 Nov 1785 ELMORE,​GLOUCESTER,​ENGLAND
residence: Gloucester,​ England parents: Thos. Sansam,​ Betty

[dotty.]

jd at his death registration in 1961 his birth was given as 1877.

1891 England Census
Name: Aloysius Marsh
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Marsh
Gender: Male
Where born: Tranmere, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:


Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 2891
Folio: 20
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Marsh 61
Alice Marsh 21
Joseph Marsh 19
Aloysius Marsh 15

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2891; Folio: 20; Page: 33; GSU roll: 6098001.

1901 England Census
Name: Aloysius Marsh
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: New Ferry, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Tranmere St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:


Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 3397
Folio: 164
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Dodds 41
Mary Dodds 38
Joseph A Dodds 14
Luke Dodds 12
Mary C Dodds 10
Winifred Dodds 9
Rita L Dodds 7
Philip Dodds 5
Eric Dodds 1
Joseph Marsh 29
Aloysius Marsh 25
Henry Johnson 25
Annie Riley 23
Ann Walker 60

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3397; Folio: 164; Page: 2.

[slinkycat]

Thanks for looking anyway Dotty, much appreciated. I have my Grandfather's marriage certificate from 1933 and there's a bit of an anomoly on there. There is a father's name and occupation, Jack Wheatley, coal merchant.
Can't understand this as Wheatley was Annie's maiden name, and there was no father's name on Jack Ivan's birth certificate.

[Sir Alec]

The genes I got from my parents are awful. Can you pay for plastic surgery?

[trt]

dotty & TheOtherHalf,

Thanks so much for the information.

Yes my mother was born in Hulme Manchester and had a sister called Mabel, my Auntie.
She also had a brother called Bill and another sister whose name I cant remember.

4Q 1933 Beryl Turner South Manchester, died when she was 42, 9 years older than me.
2Q 1937 Robert E Turner South Manchester, was my brother and 7 years older than me.

I really appreciate your help.