Fresh Pair Of Eyes Needed Please

[DJHawkes]

This is one my kids' ancestors on their dad's side, David Killinback (transcribed as Killingbank by ancestry) aged 13 on the 1841 living Stambourne essex with his father and mother. I believe that his father was Thomas Killingback but several ancestry researchers have given him a father John Pilley Killingback, the reason being that on the 1841 the father is transcribed by ancestry as To, but on the filmed return the other researchers have taken it as Jo and have added an update, BUT, the traditional common abbreviation for John in the early 1800s was jno and thomas was To. I've found a baptism for David with parents Thomas and Mary and for some of the siblings, can someone have a look and see what they think please?

[carrot99]

I've had a look at the 1841 Dot and think that, in this instance, they are right with John. In the same column as To but the second surname from the top is To Thorogood and he is a John and in the opposite column the final surname is Tho (with a tiny raised s) Martin who is Thomas Martin.

My mum would agree with you though as she still writes like that and she would call that J a T. Her Js are more like the Js used on the name James on the census, with a large loop top and bottom with the middle on the line, her written T is J sitting on the line.

[Rose Maybud]

I can't find another David of the right age, and I can't find a Thomas of the parental age. I also can't find many baptisms, marriages, burials; so not doing very well with this one!

In 1851 this John and Mary were in the Halstead Union Workhouse and further down the page was Joseph born 1826 Stamborne, perhaps another son, but can't find any baptisms. Their presence in the Workhouse would have been enough to split the family: indeed, Abraham was a lodger and there were several other singletons in Halstead. I guess you may be lucky later on in that a widowed parent might be with a son or daughter.

As to the handwriting, as you say the usual abbreviation for John was Jno, but as with any enumerator, you can't rely on them sticking to the custom.

There's a possible marriage for Maria in Jun 1849 Halstead vol 12 p163, looks like George Dorking was the groom, they are living with George's parents in Toppesfield in 1851 - does the marriage pop up in the Parish Registers? Failing that, looks like down to the purchase of the Marriage Certificate to find out :(

[DJHawkes]

thanks both of you for looking at this, oddly, when David Killingback married Eliza Walker in Poplar in 1861, for some odd reason, the entry was listed twice in the index, once as George David Killingback and then David Killingback, one after the other, very odd.

[DJHawkes]

I've been sent a copy of the marriage certificate by my brother-in-law, David is shown as George David Killinback aged 28 father john Killinback. B.I.L. does not think the father was John Pilley and he agrees that the John and Mary (R)illinback in the Halstead Union workhouse in 1851 are the parents. Odd though that there is a george aged 11 and a david aged 13 in 1841 but then in 1861 there is a george on the census who uses david on everything else,

[joko]

do you have a link dotty?

[Bob3R]

Hi, this is really strange but I am also researching the same David Killingback.
He is my Great, Great Grandfather. So I guess that we are distant relations.

I am new to this and only started my project in the last couple of weeks. However If you have any information that you can share I would appreciate it. Likewise if I turn any thing up and will let you have copies.

Best regards

Bob