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Ho Ho -easy for you to say Builder :0) It is a close coupled one and when he took the cistern off last week the mastic pulled the wallpaper off around it, so nervous to disturb it all again, so hope bending the rod will see us thro' for a while, but will definately get one of those fluidmasters, they look great, never heard of them before. Thank you for your advice, good as always, -rosy