Using Single Train Ticket Multiple Times

[tali1]

Can i use a single train ticket several times during the day ?.Some tickets say valid one journey only.The one i had was a anytime ticket - and it did not mention one journey,Also it was no more expensive than other tickets for that journey

[ubasses]

explained here -http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46550.aspx

[SlackAlice]

www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46550.aspx

[SlackAlice]

^^ weird! Links not working ☺☺☺

[Prudie]

You can use it say for getting to A to D but going via A to B, B to C then C to D for example on different trains but obviously you can't use it for the same journey twice.

[tali1]

"With an Anytime ticket you can also break your journey at stations along the route of travel." Is the most detail it gives, doesn't say you can travel the same journey several times ?

[Prudie]

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46550.aspx

[ichkeria]

I don’t think you can do the same journey several times on the one ticket. That would be a season ticket wouldn’t it?

[Buenchico]

I've run a railway station and the simple, one word answer to your question is 'No'.

If you pass through ticket barriers your ticket will either be retained by the machine at the end of your journey or the ticket's validity will automatically be cancelled by it.

If your ticket is checked by a conductor or revenue inspector it will be clipped (or simply scribbled on) to show that it's been used.

If you get caught trying to use a single ticket for more than one journey you could end up having to pay a penalty fare (in those parts of the National Rail network where penalty fares apply) or even being prosecuted for fare evasion.

[SlackAlice: The reason your link isn't 'clickable' is becase it's not got the 'http' bit. The reason that Ubasse's link isn't clickable is because there's no space before it, so that the '-' has got mixed up with the 'http' bit]

[SlackAlice]

[SlackAlice: The reason your link isn't 'clickable' is becase it's not got the 'http' bit. The reason that Ubasse's link isn't clickable is because there's no space before it, so that the '-' has got mixed up with the 'http' bit]

Ta, thought I was going doolally ☺☺

[douglas9401]

I suppose you could use it until caught then fall back on the Wayne Hennessey style defence.

May your trains run on time.

[tali1]

Buenchico -on a different note i had a a Phantom train episode.New st to Shrewsbury 9.05 platform 7b. I waited in the middle of Platform 7.At 9.03 announcer said next train to arrive at 9.03 platform 7b will be the Shrewsbury 9.05.Other people were waiting , got up or and neared towards the track. Mmm its 9.15 now - and no announcement made of Shrewsbury 9.05 arriving or been delayed - and its disappeared from the display boards.Finally , without announcement a train arrives - but its the 9.15 Glasgow.I ask guard on Platform 6 and he tells me 9.05 Shrewsbury has gone :(

[Buenchico]

That reads as if the signaller had entered the wrong headcode for a train into the system, Tali1. That results in the automated announcement system putting out an incorrect announcement (or, if the system doesn't recognise the headcode, no announcement at all). Fortunately it doesn't happen very often but signallers are only human, so some strange things do occur. (I've been on an Ipswich to Cambridge train which had to go back to Ipswich because the signaller had routed it onto the Lowestoft line by mistake).

[tali1]

Buenchico -there was a time when same nearly happened , luckily my colleague knew that the train was splitting at the platform(which is quite rare afaik) Although the Shrewsbury train was def not a split.
Also-why are some tickets scribbled on , others stamped and some clipped? Different method of same thing ?

[Buenchico]

At one time (before British Railways and Dr Beeching) rail companies used ticket punches with different symbols on different routes, so that a ticket inspector could see where a ticket had been used (in order to check that only authorised travel had been undertaken by the passenger).

The same ticket punches remained in use later on but, as they gradually wore out or became lost, rail operators replaced them with standard hole punches (of the type sold by office stationers), punches that stamped a date on tickets or some other types of device. Many though came to realise that any way of showing that a ticket had been seen would serve its purpose, so some conductors now simply scribble on tickets (or sign their initials). Occasionally a conductor might just look at a ticket (rather than punching it or writing on it), particularly when it's obvious that it couldn't be used again anyway. (I buy a day return ticket to the pub each Sunday evening, returning on the last train. It's obvious to a conductor that I couldn't use my ticket twice because there aren't any more trains on which it would be valid, so many conductors neither clip my ticket nor write on it).

These days though the majority of tickets used on many train services aren't paper ones anyway. Customers simply show the QR code on their phone app to the conductor, who scans it with his own phone app. The data is then fed to a remote computer, which notes that the ticket has been used for the relevant section of the journey, so that it can't then be re-used later on.