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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.30 in a 30 is the absolute top end you should be doing. We're talking about some kid that'll be paralysed for life just because some guy thought he was Mr Schumacher. Besides, if you're buying a detector, it's to avoid speed cameras and police radar, and standard prosecution for speeding runs at the trigger point of (speedlimit+10%+2mph). So 34 would probably not trigger a 30mph camera. In fact they're probably set at about 37 to avoid picking too many people up.
Your machine will pick up gatsos and lasers when it's too late to respond anyhow.
I really have to ask a question to all those who object to what appears to be a sanctimonious attitude. I did feel just the same way. Then I got to thinking...
What precisely is it in the arguments that you don't agree with? Speeding kills...it's been proven to be the largest single cause of road accidents. If 50 is posted, it's not a 70 for a reason. 'Dry, quiet road etc' is often taken into account by coppers, so I suspect that there were reasons why your speed made it dangerous, that you weren't aware of (I presume you don't work for the Transport Research Lab so don't know what the risks were on that road). There may well be a blind section or an inflow lane up ahead, and they do not get enough notice of you at 70.
Secondly, Kev, I would point out some false assumptions in your posting.
1) Speeding in built up areas is often caused by the relative perception of speed caused by having been speeding on a motorway. It is neither built up areas nor motorways that have most fatal accidents, it is 'A' roads.
2) Fact: All speed camera revenue in the UK gets ploughed back into road safety, the argument that they're for making money for coppers is false. .
3) They're not hidden, all GATSOS in the UK now have fluorescent backing to give the nutters a chance.
4) "why they are to be found on clean, safe roads nowhere near built up areas or accident black-spots." FACT: All speed cameras of any description in the UK can only be mounted where there has already been an accident.
If you do appear in court over a more serious speeding offence, the fact that you did get caught speeding before and responded to it by simply trying to dodge the law with a wee machine will of course not do you any favours, especially if the judge is examining a 'causing death by dangerous driving' charge,where you're probably looking at life behind bars. Where gatsos don't work. Maybe in the showers...
slimfandango's figures are a generalisation and an unjustifiable one at that. I recently had to verify the facts of a case of speeding. A taxi driver returning home with no fare (having delivered a fare to a destnation very many miles away) was caught by a camera near a school at 33mph and was given three points. In normal circumstances this may be justified when children are around. It was at 3am on a wide and deserted straight road. The effect of this was devastating because some time later he picked up four points (possibly justified, I don't know the full facts) for a speeding offence at motorway roadworks. The local authority has a policy that the case of any hackney driver with more than six points must be reviewed by Committee, and the Committee revoked his hackney licence and thereby took away his livelihood. Magistrates rejected his appeal and it is now going higher.
The point I'm labouring to make is that the problem speed limits attempt to address is driving at inappropriate speed in the circumstances. They are a very blunt tool for this purpose. I don't think this driver's speed, while marginally above the limit, was inappropriate in the prevailing circumstances. Someone is going to say "OK, so what do you propose?" I leave that to the more technically gifted, but we have variable limits on the M25. The technology is there to use them elsewhere (albeit at a cost).
I was tonight overtaken by two sports cars on a motorway. They were obviously racing and at speeds well in excess of 100mph. These are the people who should have the book thrown at them (oh, and also boy racers with screeching tyres and stereos that can be heard half a mile away!).
Toffee, I'm really glad cab drivers are getting done in this way, speeding on your own is bad enough, but putting the lives of passengers at risk also is appalling. Well done that council!
Speed cameras save lives and deter speeding. There is no other way at present to so efficiently deter the nutters who think they know better. There is NO GOOD REASON TO SPEED! What did he gain by doing 33 instead of 30? Got home 10 minutes earlier? All that increased risk and stress just to save 10 minutes?
Your argument about the M25 variable limit is fallacious. It does not exist because of differentials in appropriate maximum speeds on the M25, but as a result of research that showed that if everyone is made to drive a bit slower than the normal maximums, then EVERYONE gets to their destination faster. It is going too fast in congestion that results in the 'waves' of sudden braking that cause traffic jams.
Drive safe everyone! And just remember SPEEDING KILLS!
slimfandango, you will realise that my post was in response to your first post - I hadn't seen your second. I agree with some of what you say. But I disagree if you think that all cameras are unconcealed and all are colored fluorescent yellow. I can think of one windscreen facing camera (which admittedly I have not driven past for some time) which is neither. There is also one on the A2 into London which is yellow but neatly concealed in a recess in the retaining wall.
I am totally against any driver driving at inappropriate speed. I know of some 30 mph limits where I wouldn't dream of driving above 20, and others where I wouldn't drive above about 10.