Crosswords1 min ago
Resigned - now WHAT?
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As some of you know I went for a job interview and got it. You've all been v helpful with advice. anyway to cut a long story short - handed my resignation in today and my boss, (actually my managers, manager - so my "big boss" ) asked "what can we do to get you to stay" - never been in this scenario before and I am more confused than ever. In an ideal world I'd say : "sack my manager and give me her job as she's useless|" but that won't work, (really trying to keep everything as smooth as can be with her as don't burn bridges and all that....I'm thinking I'll still take the new job offer but them asking me "what it would take to keep me" has made it interesting....never ever been ini this situation before.....
If I don't reply straight away it's cos I only logged on very sneakily (at work - which I DONT usually do - but my mind is spinning) will check answers when I get home tonight!!!!
If I don't reply straight away it's cos I only logged on very sneakily (at work - which I DONT usually do - but my mind is spinning) will check answers when I get home tonight!!!!
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Well you've already stated the only way you'd want to stay is if they fired your manager (perfectly reasonable and the same reason I left my previous job, except it was 3 'managers' and I do use the term losely). However, that's unlikely to happen so I don't really see how it changes anything.
If they offered you some fantastic sum, would you still be happy to work for that manager? If the answer is no, then nothing has changed. If they offered a promotion elsewhere or transfer to another department, would that be something you'd like? If so, then that would be worth considering I guess.
If they offered you some fantastic sum, would you still be happy to work for that manager? If the answer is no, then nothing has changed. If they offered a promotion elsewhere or transfer to another department, would that be something you'd like? If so, then that would be worth considering I guess.
I can understand you not wanting to burn your bridges, but you could always put your move down to a 'clash of personalities' with your manager, rather than the truth that she's about as much use as a chocolate teapot. That, Add a couple of thousand on to what your new job is offering moneywise, and a switch to another department for you or the teapot, and tell them you might consider it, because sometimes, it's better the devil you know than the devil you don't. If you decide to take the new job or not, Good luck!!
I agree with mercia here. Think seriously if you do want to stay where you are even if things did change. Can you transfer to another department, or ask for promotion within your department? I do know what it's like to work with a manager who is useless and you don't get on with. It's the reason I left my last job. If you do have any ideas that could improve the department your in why not suggest them. It can't hurt as it sounds like they are very keen to keep you. Good luck with what you decide.
Don't be so afraid of burning those bridges. Twice in my life I have gone back to work for former employers after having left them previously on perfectly amicable terms. On both occasions it went sour. The first time there was a new manager who resented the fact that my uncle was a senior manager, and on the second occasion I simply found myself working for a man who could not allow his staff to do their jobs without interfering 24/7. On both occasions I burnt my bridges when I left for the second time. The first threatened to make my life 'very difficult' if I left, so I called in family ties and reported him to my uncle. The second, I wrote in my resignation letter that I simply could not work with a man who insisted on supervising every aspect of my job and my staff (I was actually a supervisor myself at that point). That was with the NHS and there was an exit interview, so I told them everything.
I do not regret either situation at all. In fact, I feel I did people a service. In the first instance, the manager was investigated and found to be up to a lot more than just threatening his staff - he was demoted and eventually dismissed. In the second instance, I don't know what became of the man. He was a senior nurse and in fairness to him, his clinical practice and patient skills were excellent - just that he couldn't manage non-nursing staff for toffee. I would hope that his management failings were addressed and that suitable training was put into place for the future.
So I guess what I'm saying is that burning bridges mightn't be as final as it sounds. As long as you do it politely and objectively then you may just be responsible for making the next employee's life a whole lot better. And you could well be remembered by the grateful senior manager who interviews you at another company ten years from now.
I do not regret either situation at all. In fact, I feel I did people a service. In the first instance, the manager was investigated and found to be up to a lot more than just threatening his staff - he was demoted and eventually dismissed. In the second instance, I don't know what became of the man. He was a senior nurse and in fairness to him, his clinical practice and patient skills were excellent - just that he couldn't manage non-nursing staff for toffee. I would hope that his management failings were addressed and that suitable training was put into place for the future.
So I guess what I'm saying is that burning bridges mightn't be as final as it sounds. As long as you do it politely and objectively then you may just be responsible for making the next employee's life a whole lot better. And you could well be remembered by the grateful senior manager who interviews you at another company ten years from now.
Their comment implies they will probably try and throw money at you. If the problem is down to a clash of personalities then it's unlikely they will get rid of a manager above you (unless there have been complaints logged by you and other staff as well).
I would go with the advice about citing a difference of personal approaches that you feel won't change even if you stay, and that the new role offers new opportunities. Tell them you would like to think you part on good terms and if there is a job thee in the future that you might consider returning when you have gained an even greater skill set.
I run a team of people and my client is having a re-organisation of their business which may reslut in some of them losing their jobs. Before we even had a definitive answer about this 3 went off and found new jobs. We are parting on great terms and with my best wishes, leaving the door open for them to return maybe, and it's looking like I might have to fill some vacancies now!
Not quite the same I'll admit, but you need to examine why you went for a new job to begin with and be really honest as to whether you think the root causes will change if you stay.
I would go with the advice about citing a difference of personal approaches that you feel won't change even if you stay, and that the new role offers new opportunities. Tell them you would like to think you part on good terms and if there is a job thee in the future that you might consider returning when you have gained an even greater skill set.
I run a team of people and my client is having a re-organisation of their business which may reslut in some of them losing their jobs. Before we even had a definitive answer about this 3 went off and found new jobs. We are parting on great terms and with my best wishes, leaving the door open for them to return maybe, and it's looking like I might have to fill some vacancies now!
Not quite the same I'll admit, but you need to examine why you went for a new job to begin with and be really honest as to whether you think the root causes will change if you stay.
Congratulations to both evedawn and 4get on the new job offers!
evedawn,the employment climate in the NHS is so volatile at the moment that it's hard to know how to advise you. All I can suggest is that you have an off-the-record discussion with your boss's boss and be clear about the problem with your boss - you are intending to move elsewhere and it could be that the boss-boss doesn't realise how ineffective their line report is, and that their department is not a good place to work, it often takes someone to put their head over the parapet to make these things clear. You have a new job offer so do you have anything to lose in stating your case? It's a hard one - almost exactly the same happened to a colleague and he did in the end opt to stay, but in a totally new role with a different line of report. Not an easy decision to have to make, but I wish you luck, as ever.
evedawn,the employment climate in the NHS is so volatile at the moment that it's hard to know how to advise you. All I can suggest is that you have an off-the-record discussion with your boss's boss and be clear about the problem with your boss - you are intending to move elsewhere and it could be that the boss-boss doesn't realise how ineffective their line report is, and that their department is not a good place to work, it often takes someone to put their head over the parapet to make these things clear. You have a new job offer so do you have anything to lose in stating your case? It's a hard one - almost exactly the same happened to a colleague and he did in the end opt to stay, but in a totally new role with a different line of report. Not an easy decision to have to make, but I wish you luck, as ever.
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