Jury Made Their Decision

[1991sw]

So the jury found my bf not guilty to section 18 with intent but found him guilty to section 20 without intent the judge sentenced him to 21 months in prison because he has done 4 months on remand how long will he have to serve?

[1991sw]

Thank you Eddie does it make a difference if he is enhanced? As my boyfriends mom and dad have already booked a visit for Thursday but when he was on remand I was allowed a two hour visit as I live far away from the prison can I still have two hour visit?

[scorpiojo]

http://www.offendersfamilieshelpline.org/index.php/visits/

[EDDIE51]

You need to ask the prison, each one has it's own visiting times and rules.
I think visits are 90 minutes for convicted prisoners, but again ask the prison her is in.

[1991sw]

Even if he is not released on tag end of February beginning of march his release date is end if April beginning of may

[1991sw]

My bf called me today he said his hdc papers have been delivered to him his release date is the 13th February that was quick :) does that mean he has been accepted?

[Toorak]

Yes - sounds like it

[hc4361]

I have never known the wheels of justice move so swiftly

[EDDIE51]

This has been ongoing since September hc4361 .

[hc4361]

Yes, Eddie, but the trial started a day early and was over and done with, including sentencing, within 2 or 3 days.

[EDDIE51]

The 'day early' was due to 1991sw getting the date wrong, and it started (and finished) on the scheduled day.
The jury took just 20 mins to find the defendant guilty of GBH S20!
All this and more was in the deleted post.

[CrapAtCryptics]

http://disclosurecalculator.org.uk/

[EDDIE51]

^ started on the scheduled day and finished the next day!

[1991sw]

My bf said his hdc date is February 13th but if he don't get it his release date is June 20th this is 7 months he would be serving that's way past his halfway point it is supposed to be end if April beginning of may his barrister said he will be serving 5 minths on good behaviour which would be April so why would they give him hus release date 20th June?

[Peter Pedant]

// I don't know whether the judge was "not happy" because he believed he should not have been convicted at all or whether he was displeased because he thought the jury should have returned a verdict of guilty to S18. //

the jury I was on the judge made it quite clear in court obviously that we were there to decide fact. [ he also said that he decided law and we had to take as he said ].

I have just read Emmins on alternative verdicts offered to the jury and all I recollect ( oops ) is that the judge is not obliged to but can do if he wants.

Remember the juries may acquit if they dont think the prosecution has proven the case -

anyway it will be a difficult christmas for you
and I hope it goes well-ish

[1991sw]

Sorry Peter that wasn't what I have asked if you read my question before you answered

[EDDIE51]

Up to 4 months of a sentence can be served 'On Tag' ( home detention curfew) So if he is accepted for 'Tag' he will be out of prison in February.
If he has to serve the full sentence 'inside' he will be out 4 months later in June. I don't know what the conditions for getting 'tag' are. I do know he must have a registered address that he can be 'tagged' to. So does he have a registered address for the 'tag'? Your address for example? He can't be released to 'home detention curfew' if he is officially homeless for example, as he has to have a home to be released to.

[1991sw]

His mother's house is his hdc address he has already told them his mother's address when will he know he is being released on tag?

[1991sw]

But he had a second option tp go into emergency accommodation if they refuse his mother's address

[EDDIE51]

Without knowing his personal situation we can't comment on if an address is considered as 'permanent' and/or 'suitable' for home detention curfew. Emergency / Temporary accommodation, as for example a shelter for the homeless, would not be considered suitable for home detention curfew.
Was he living at his Mother's address before the incident? The address he is 'tagged' to should be one that he was officially living at before he was sent to prison. In other words it has to really be his 'home'. He can't just give the address of a friend or relative.

[EDDIE51]

Read this and note that the home curfew address is subject to 'assessment for suitability'.
https://www.justice.gov.uk/offenders/before-after-release/home-detention-curfew