Girl Wants To Use My House For Massage Parlour.

[beezaneez]

i have a house, my friend wants me to rent it to her on a short time basis to do massage, i let her use it last week and i paid by my card to advertise her services on a website. i am now concerned that she could be wanting to use it for sex, if so i will not be doing this for her, i am scared of getting arrested for running a brothel or living off proceeds of prostitution if she is offering sex although she has promised me she is not providing that . she has went to a massage school and studied it before about 3 years ago so im stuck on this idea. she is not giving me any money whatsoever . i feel sorry for her and but i dont know if she is manipulating me or not, people have told me to take care about this.

where do i stand regarding law. i have read it up about brothel etc and there would be only her doing massage betwwen her and customer, i will never be in house at same time . i will be there once or twice a week to collect mail etc. she needs this money to go away in new year and is constantly asking pleading with me. as i say i let her use it for 1 week before but stpped her using it as my friends warned she could be prostituting herself , that is up to her behind closed doors but its me whos going to be fall guy in long run, i need to know law on this before i consider this, if against the law then ill simply tell her "no " thankyou

[pixie373]

Difficult though it is, you need to speak to your wife. Or where will this woman stop? There is no reason to think massage is anything to do with prostitution. My sister is qualified in Swedish massage, so don't jump to conclusions. I think there is only one way forward, though.

[murraymints]

As Sandy says....is there any evidence to support anything she may say ? If not , brazen it out by saying to wife you don't like her friend or what she may be up to, therefore she isn't getting house...then you can shout sour grapes if she starts throwing tales around. I'd also mention to the friend that you've taken legal advice and police have been tipped off already about her "activities"

[murraymints]

And shred your card statement soon as !!!

[murraymints]

You could say that someone in authority had contacted you as house owner to say complaints had been made about what may have been going on the last time she was there, and the police have been made aware too...by this person in authority...council perhaps ?

[Mosaic]

If she wants to use your house for business purposes she will need to be paying business rates (or at least you will, as the owner of the house).
As others have said, she would have to prove to your wife that she had sex with you.
No good will come of caving in to her. Tell her to get lost and as one of our Victorian Prime Ministers said in a similar fix, 'publish and be damned'.
It is not illegal to pay for sex or sell sex, but the business premises involved would need local authority planning permission to operate legally.
Sorry about your marriage being wobbly at present but having any dealings with this other woman is only going to make matters worse.

[EDDIE51]

First, in view of what you have told us it is certain that this woman wants to use your property to sell sex.
You have to go to the police and report her for harassment,the police will have dealt with situations like this before and will be careful not to cause you unnecessary problems. They should warn her off and tell her that any more harassment will mean arrest. I would also tell your wife that this woman is threatening you and that you have reported her to the police.

[boxtops]

The answers you have received so far are very sound. You can use your house as a business premises (legitimate or not) without getting permission from the council, changing your insurances, etc., so you could be on a sticky wicket already. This sounds like blackmail to me, if she's not paying you rent but threatening to tell your wife.

Come clean - tell the police. You must, before this gets even further out of hand.

[boxtops]

^^ You CAN'T use your house....

[EDDIE51]

Tell your wife that her 'friend' is offering you sex in return for free use of your property, it will not be far from the truth and will explain what has been going on. Tell her the demands have become more than you can cope with and you have had to go to the police. If she tells your wife you did have sex with her then you can say it is all part of the threats to try to get your house rent free.
I realise this will be hard but it is easier than the alternative .

[beezaneez]

thankyou, but this would devastate my wife and this person has proved evil and wicked enough to tell her. i have seen her at face value now for 6 months and i know that she has allready been escorting in london before for an agency, i did not think it was illegal of me to use my card to put her on a website for escort ie viva street , massage / escort section. i also used my wifes card to upgrade her ad. now she is saying to me that because i done it before i must do it again ( or else ) i have her on video on my iphone threatening me, i have sent these vidoeo,s 9 of them to my personal email then i deleted them off my phone. last time she threatened me i told her i took video of her doing it but then i wiped my phone when she asked me to show her. i have shown one or two of these videos to a solicitor. there are more things that come into play here but i cannot say what they are. my life has been ruined .

[murraymints]

You HAVE TO call her bluff.....mention in a casual manner to wife you don't like her friend and you have your reasons without specifics....then tell blackmailer it is a big NO for reasons I have outlined above....if....she says anything to wife, then you can back up the reasons you don't like her....you'd been tipped off what she was up to which is why you refused her and she is now making wild accusations as revenge !! If she doesn't back off then you HAVE to tell police ..you have evidence, what does she have ??

You MUST do something soonest or it will eat you up and destroy your marriage in any case ...deep breath...be strong and DO IT !! ....Good luck

[boxtops]

Your last answer shows that this is definitely something you MUST report to the police - it's blackmail, nothing else. I accept that it's a huge risk to your relationship with your wife, but it'd be worse if you were arrested for letting this woman run a sex business from your house. Where will it stop, if you don't stop it now? She'll be on your back, costing you money and losing your rental income, potentially for as long as she can turn a trick.

Grit your teeth, beez, and go to the police. Now.

[EDDIE51]

I agree with Boxtops this is BLACKMAIL!!!
No matter how difficult you HAVE to report this to the police.
The police have seen all this 100's of times before and know how to handle it.

[joko]

not sure why you think you would be in trouble if she got caught using the house as a brothel - you are just a landlord - you do not control or monitor what tenants do - you are not the one doing it.
they would have to prove you knew and were in someway involved and merely owning the house is not being involved

i would just let her get on with it, then down the line find out if she is doing that - and report her - she will be arrested and removed from the property - problem solved

[boxtops]

There's more to it, than that, though, joko - beez is being blackmailed, she's not paying rent, she's making him pay for adverts etc. It's a police job.

[murraymints]

Joko it's a bit more complicated than that.....if she's on her own it wouldn't be termed a brothel in the eyes of the law..but there are lots of ifs and buts and maybe if you read back the details...

[joko]

thats the point murray mints .... if a tenant of mine commits a murder in a property i own, i am not remotely responsible, if they handle stolen goods in there, i am not remotely responsible, if a woman charges for sex in there i am not remotely responsible either.

i realise there is more to this case but beezaneez seems to be overly concerned about himself being in all sorts of trouble over this.

as i say, let her do it, get somewhat established, then anonymously report her... and when the police ask, play dumb, you had no idea she was doing this, as she told you it was just massage - she would then have no reason to tell your wife etc because you have allowed her to continue.

if she then continues with some other blackmail scheme, then unfortuantely the police would be the only answer.

[phleb]

Why did you pay to advertise her services? That's one thing you have messed up on, as if she is offering sex, then I'd be careful about flashing your cash/cards about! Do you have business insurance?, she is trading in your house? I'm afraid if she gets raided, and tells them you were ok with it, then you are buggered.

I would come clean to the wife, and hope that you can work it out. Maybe try counselling, and please do not do anything silly i.e try ending your life, its not worth it, this masseuse is not worth it, and you will leave a trail of devastation behind for the family/wife.

Once you start paying to keep people quite, it carries on, and you will be people always get found out in the end. Tell this women to move out. get a friend to phone her advert and to ask her about what she offers, then this can be proof to get rid. Worse thing that will happen is that you will split from your wife, but that is nothing you cannot work out, you really don't want a criminal record aswell.

Things are there to be fixed, it will take time, but be brave and take the plunge, be honest.

good luck x

[beezaneez]

ok , heres the kicker - she has given me HIV. this is not a joke !! my life is in a complete mess, the doctors diagnosed me on 24 october 2 months after i had sex with her, i wasnt sleeping with anyone else . i knew it was her that gave me it because after i came down with very bad cold and cuts in my mouth i just knew it was her. i never had a flu like it and knew something was wrong, when i called her and and asked her about it she just said as matter of fact that i would be ok, the doctors in hospital knew it was her gave me it because i told one of the social workers in hospital the day i was diagnosed that i had unprotected sex with " this person " i learned that this woman had been going for treatment at the hiv clinic for some time, so she knew !! and that is another reason why she has a stranglehold over me , how on earth would i ever explain that to my wife for god sake, that is why it is so difficult and this bitch knows it, in a way its me to blame too , of course it is , i should have used protection, i should not have gone there in first place !! anyway its doe and im to blame also for this mess. doctor asked me why i didnt use the PEP pill, i didnt even hear of a pep pill before, though this person knew she had it and shouldnt of had unprotected sex with me or anyone else . she has since had sex with a friend of mine and he is only 25 and he has his whole life ahead of him and a great career offshore, ive told him in roundabout way that if he ever has sex with her again to use condoms, he asked me why i said that but i shrugged it off. thsi is not a joke and please if you think ur being funny by giving me negitive advice then think again, this is and has turned out to be mu worse nightmare. this bitch actally goes shopping with my wife and smiles at me and my poor wee wife soent have a clue. ive done my wife and daughter wrong, so much wrong !!! nothing can take away this guilt i feel , i cannot turn back. if i have advise for any one of you it is do not do what i have done !! please. and im not on here for a pity party either, jst advice . thanks