underage sex

[mogwai4]

what to do about a 22 year old giving a fifteen year old an std and getting her pregnant?

[Ethel]

Firstly you get the girl treated for the STD and get her proper advice re the pregnancy.

If this was consensual intercourse then the reality is there is very little the police will do unless she was targetted by him and groomed for sex.

If it wasn't consensual, you report it to the police as a rape

[bednobs]

good and full answer by ethel there - i can't add anything else

[mogwai4]

am a very responsable parent and i know that the public will think yes another iresponsable parent i knew the man in person and so did the extended family and yes i trusted him i had also spoke to him regarding my daughter and we all beleived him when he said he would lookout for her as he knew who she was freinds with i feel hat he should be held accountable for this he is the adult, I have only just found out that she is 5 months pregnant and that she went for a termination but was so frightened off me finding out that he never went through with it he never even knew that she was pregnant no-one did, he is also married with a one year old, the law must surley have to stop this happening even a consenting CHILD they as grown males know what they are doing.

[bednobs]

did your daughter agree to sex or was she raped?

[Ethel]

I fully understand how devastated you must be and yes, it is illegal to have sex with a minor.

If you reported him to the police it is unlikely the CPS would prosecute unless your daughter has 'special needs' and has has the emotional and intellectual IQ of a much younger child.

However, if they did proceed with a prosecution, your daughter would have to give evidence. The prosecution will look very closely at her reputation and her background and will claim she was fully consensual and encouraged him. That is how the courts work in these cases - it is her word against his.

If all men under 25 who has had sex with 15 year old girls were brought into court, the system would grind to a halt.

[pinktwink]

sorry etherl but CPS amy take the case up wihout girl having special needs depends on the circumstances

mog I suggest you contact the police and CPS and report the matter. Ity is illegal to have sex with someone of your daughters age. CPS will need to be aware that the man is a risk to young girls. The police can only help if your daughter is willing to make a statement good luck

[mogwai4]

,pinkwink i agree the doctor i am under is waiting for me to say the word as the cps would be very much involved with this (yes i am scared in case it pushes my daughter away but at the same time as a mature adult myself i feel i ned to go ahead and make a stand for all the young girls out there why should they be allowed to get away with this as grown men they have not ruined their lives only the ones of the teen mums and their children as at the end off th day they can walk away and 99 out of 100 do, I NEED to as a mum to try and protect these girls out there where they think it is cool for and older guy to fancy them and the reality is that they only want a virgin.........

[Twenty20]

What does your daughter think?

[Ethel]

Very rare though for a prosecution to go ahead where the girl was 15 and consenting, especially when there is a baby involved.

[Eve]

I agree with Ethel unless there was some form of force or violence involved or if he is thought to be a danger to others.

[dot.hawkes]

he sounds quite irresponsible and immature , i can fully understand that you did not know she was pregnant, my grandson's mum was 15 and my son 17 when they had him, i only found out she was pregnant through village gossip, she was 6 months gone, her Mum was estranged and her dad had no clue, and so i rang her school and they were stunned, she had done trampolining the day before in PE!!!!

Her family lived opposite us and i saw her every day but never noticed she was wearing a large baggy school jumper!!!!

Everything is wonderful now, despite some stressful few early months!!!! You should look to ypour daughter and grandchild to make things as positive as possible, her school and LEA have lots of things in place to help her she can do her GCSEs and carry on her studies with plenty of support hopefully.

The 22 year old sound immature and irresponsible and hopefully he will not allow his marriage and child at home to be affected, they certainly don;t deserve to sufer for his stupidity.

This is what happens you see, thoughtless blokes like him go through life leaving others to pick up the pieces, he wil have to support the new baby financially and of course that will deprive his family, he'll not learn though, he sounds a serial to$$er.

But make things right between yourself and your daughter, your grandchild will be the light of your life and you will enjoy them at christmases to come!

[mogwai4]

Thanks dot for your opinion, myself and my daughter have a good relationship and i know that we will get there as a family me and her dad have been married for 24 years so i know first hand how difficult the early years can be but ,we have a very good family network and they are all shocked but are all being supportive and yes i know that she is strong enough to get through this i feel that i have to let go the bitterness i feel towards him but then it is early days who knows yes youare right he is a ****** x100

[pinktwink]

there are two seperate issues
! a criminal matter for underage sex that is dependent on your daughters willingness to make a statement
2 a CPS matter regarding this mans risk to other children/young people. You can report the matter yourself and so should your doctor under the child abuse guidelines. Whilst CPS may be very busy as a CPS worker it is appropriate referral and sould be followed up. Who knows maybe this man is already known to CPS

[jake-the-peg]

The CPS guidance is here:

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sexual_offe nces_unlawful_sexual_intercourse/index.html

It's generally not considered in the public interest to prosecute cases of consensual sex if the girl is between 13 and 16 and the man is under 25.

Indeed it's not even always considered in the public interest if the girl is younger if the man had reason to believe she was over 16!

I really think you have little chance of any action unless as pinktwink says he's wanted for other cases.

Remember the law is there to protect vulnerable people not to avenge outraged parents

[mogwai4]

Jake i can see where you are coming from but i am not out for revenge the law states that it is illeagel to have sex with a minor which means under sixteen vunerable or not, why have such a law in place when very clearly these older guys are continuing to break the law at the end off the day why would any man want to have sex witha minor and knowing there are, All men know what is right and wrong and you may say and so does the 15 yearold but all said and done they are the adult and should be walking away in other countries there is zero tolerance to unedrage sex so why not here? same as sex with a minor it is taken very seriously and carries a heavy peanalty maybe if this was the case in ths country the pegancy rate would not be one of the highest but lower joining the other countries.

[jake-the-peg]

Laws of this type are hard to frame.

Making it illegal with harsh penalties and then legal 24 hours later after a birthday is a nonsense. Especially with different ages off consent in different countries.

Not to mention the different maturity level of different people.

That's why prosecutions of this type are not generally seen to be in the public interest.

I think you should ask what you're hoping to achieve by persuing this legally.

You seem to be persuing this for your reasons not your daughters (does she want this?) and I can't see how persuing it will be beneficial to your daughter or the child.

I'm also pretty sure the CPS won't want to know

[mogwai4]

jake to seem to very strongly agree to this,why should there be a law in place when it can be broken so easily and as you saying it wont be benificial to the child the person in question already has a one year old and does not pay nor see him so tell me why should he be allowed to keeping sowing his seeds (especially with young girls) for the tax payer to pay for his kids, do not get me wrong my daughter along with myself and her dad will bring up the child and she will be very much loved and cared for, whatever people say is there opinion but i strongly beleive that sex with a minor should be taken very seriously.

[joshuaty2010]

i would suggest first to consult your parents about the problem you have been through and second, It should immediately consult a doctor. and face as a man the consequences you made.

Source:
http://www.menshealthinstitute.org/