Watching A Fascinating Film On Amazon Prime Called Amish Abduction

[Bobbisox1]

I really like watching stuff how others live like the Hasidic ultra Orthodox Jews etc
That stuff like this still happens in our modern world

[pixie374]

I haven't seen it bobbi, but we looked after some people who didn't agree with TV, radio, phones, tech etc. Very religious (not Amish), and lovely people.

[Bobbisox1]

The sect fascinate me Pixie, such a harsh regime and that the ' Englishers' are evil

[rockyracoon]

If you have Netflix, you'll probably like Unorthodox. It's very good

[woofgang]

remember that like any other film (even some documentaries) what you are seeing is not necessarily the truth....or even within waving across a big field distance of the truth.

[tiggerblue10]

Unorthodox was great.

[rowanwitch]

People can behave very strangely when you have the combination of charismatic leaders, very strict codes, and indoctrination from early childhood. Nursed a patient from a fundamentalist Christian sect who wouldn't accept a transplant unless it could be guaranteed to come from a white man, anything else would diminish him in the face of god, We couldn't transplant, he died leaving a huge family. We hoped when he became unconscious his wife would tell us to go ahead but she was more afraid of the elders who took turns sitting with the family. If we asked them to give her time alone with her husband. It was 'come sister' and she followed them out the door

[woofgang]

Unorthodox has also been criticised for not being accurate. It did stray quite far from the book.

[woofgang]

rowan, I know its difficult but for whatever reason your patient had made his choice and IMO it wouldn't have been right for his wife to countermand it. Religion was not involved but when my husband was dying, he made decisions that I would not have made. He was very clear with me that I was NOT to change those when he was no longer able.

[10ClarionSt]

I met some Amish people when were on holiday visiting friends in Greenville, South Carolina. They were at the weekly flea market. Didn't say much, but that's their way isn't it?

[Bobbisox1]

I've seen unorthodox and really enjoyed that too , last nights film had a bit of an abrupt end to it :0(

[woofgang]

PS can you imagine how distraught he would have been if he had received a transplant and recovered?

[Bobbisox1]

We have a very large Jewish community here, they're orthodox but not Hasidics,they seem to live in the Manchester and Bethnal Green areas , where they live here has become a very Jewish area where they all live side by side, but you never of them causing any bother at all, they're very peaceful

[woofgang]

Bobbi, is there an eruv there?

[Bobbisox1]

No, not to my knowledge although very few gentiles wander round there and tbh,if I've had to cut through for any reason, I've never cast my eyes skywards

[rowanwitch]

I understood, and if it was based on religion alone I think everyone would have been more comfortable but it was based on racism and sexism. I wonder would be have accepted an organ from a white gay male, I doubt that too.

[10ClarionSt]

Jewish people seem to live a bubble. I live near Prestwich in Manchester, a large Jewish area. But it's a nightmare driving through those streets, especially if you drive there on Friday or Saturday. The Jewish people never look up. They just walk into the road with their children. And they look at you as if you shouldn't be there, shouting at you sometimes. You have to be really wary when driving round there

[Bobbisox1]

I can honestly say Clarion that the large community here never shout at anyone,you see a lot out and about on Fridays especially ( shopping for their Sabbath meal) although they have a very large Kosher store where they are

[woofgang]

rowan basis doesn't matter. I have given treatment to people who were avid foxhunters...to people who were sexist (wanted a male therapist) ....its not the clinicians job to judge and its a dodgy road to start down.

[rowanwitch]

He refused, and wasn't treated, chances are he would have had a white male donor but he wanted a guarantee that the surgeons just couldn't give. I wouldn't have a transplant or be a donor but that is my decision, all I am saying extreme religion can override what would be seen by many as logical courses of action.

[woofgang]

so can other things