Points on Licence........

[Im a BusyBee]

How long do points stay on your licence please? Also is it the date of offence or date of conviction that counts?

[grasscarp]

date of offence. They are spent after 3 years and can be removed from licence after 4 years.

[mccfluff]

depends what the points are for, it varies

[mccfluff]

not true grass, the lenght of time the point stay is is relevant to the offence.

speding point are generally as you stated

[mccfluff]

http://www.direct.gov...ifications/DG_4022550

[Im a BusyBee]

its my sons licence - offence oct 08 conviction may 09. code CD10 5 points

[EvianBaby]

From DVLA - Offence codes CD10 to CD30 must stay on a driving licence for four years from date of offence

[grasscarp]

I was talking about speeding SP30
Here are the other rules
http://www.direct.gov...ifications/DG_4022550

[mccfluff]

4 years then

[Davethedog]

Evian yes but they only count towards totting up for 3, I think.

[Im a BusyBee]

Many thanks. I love this site - question fully answered within 6 minutes :-)

[Im a BusyBee]

oh right so they wont be totted up anymore?

[EvianBaby]

I lied, that was from the Direct Gov website, not DVLA.

[SeaJayPea]

For the purposes of totting up, they are valid for three years from the date of the offence. They have to stay on the licence for a further year because, in the past, people would keep delaying court cases until an earlier offence reached its three-year limit, then quickly send the licence away to get it taken off. Much more unlikely that they could delay it by a further year.

And drinking and driving offences stay on your licence for 11 years, valid for 10, for the same reason.

[New Judge]

Just to be a bit pedantic, CJP, any points awarded for an excess alcohol offence would normally have to involve being “in charge” rather than driving as the driving offence carries a mandatory ban and no points are imposed. Any points imposed for the “in charge” offence only remain active for totting up purposes for three years, as with any other offence which attracts points.

Those convicted of driving with excess alcohol face a mandatory disqualification of 12 months minimum. For a second or subsequent offence within 10 years the minimum disqualification period is 3 years (hence the reason why the endorsement remains for eleven years). There is no such sanction for being “in charge” with excess alcohol whether the penalty is points or a disqualification.

Exceptionally, a defendant convicted of driving with excess alcohol may successfully argue “Special Reasons” to avoid being disqualified. (This has to be relevant to the offence, and is different to the “Exceptional Hardship” argument used to avoid a totting up disqualification). In these cases instead of a disqualification the court must award points and these would remain active for ten years.