That was a good Link Baldric, Wynns used to run them years back for weights in excess of 100 tons, there was a rear steer man, he sat at the back of the trailer on a little seat, them were the days. Ivor, I only once nearly come unstuck, that was North entrance to the Blackwall, they had metal tubes hanging before the entrance, I hit one & was lucky no one was behind me, there is a slip road to divert which I took, that was my only time, you have obviously seen the ONE ARM GLORY BOYS, with their big 60 spot light lorry's? I had two when I was driving, that was enough.