Diesel On The Decline?

[Booldawg]

Looking at getting a new (to us anyway!) car next year.

We've always had diesels for the last 10 years or so, but are diesels the economical sensible and environmentally sound car they were always considered to be?

Would you go diesel or petrol?

[DTCwordfan]

And, cop, this may surprise you, the US market is far ahead of us in NOx and PM standards - and in creating active trading markets to encouraging environmental trading in NOxes and SOxes than Europe enjoys..... and what is their reputation over here, as being a dirty emissions centre, a G_Bush (the Shrub) legacy, perhaps......

[tonyav]

Especially California, DT.

[DTCwordfan]

Exactly, tony.......

[alavahalf]

My son has been working on this one .. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/03/20150323-r18.html

It will change your mind about diesels not being fast.

It just sprang to mind if you were to ban diesels from towns and cities the world will come to a halt .. wouldn't it ?

[DTCwordfan]

followed by Houston, Chicago and then the NE.....

you may enjoy my sports joke posting, tony, could the Villa goalie pull that kick out of the bag?

[tonyav]

Audi have won Le Mans a few times with diesel powered cars.
https://www.audi.co.uk/audi-innovation/audi-motorsport/audi-r10-tdi.html


Will have a look, DT.

[ToraToraTora]

has anyone told F1?

[tonyav]

What for, TTT.
4 categories of car at Le mans 24 hour.
Only one in F1.

[DTCwordfan]

they have thought about it....just hasn't materialised.....

[tonyav]

Didn't know that, DT.

[TWR]

Alava, Gardners! was that in Peterborough just off the A47 going towards Wisbech?

[ToraToraTora]

I see tony, so diesel performs well in the diesel class, right oh! I must enter the steam class next year!

[SlackAlice]

^^^^
TTT

and outperformed all other classes, including petrol and steam ☺☺☺

[ToraToraTora]

yes so why are F1 not using diesel?

[DTCwordfan]

well it's not really petrol they use, Tora, even though its set to the hihest octane of the country they race in, it's what is called alkylate. It's akin to when you buy a brand new car and the garage hasn't filled it - there's about four of five litres of this stuff in the car to help temper the engine in. It's also present in top quality petrol as a component to aid cleaning, along with detergents.

Chemically, alkylates are long linear molecules and burn efficiently.The alkylation process in the refinery reacts light olefins (propylene, butylenes, and amylenes) with isobutane in the presence of a strong acid catalyst to achieve these molecules, the olefins giving double bonds between their carbons to help drive the burn.

[tonyav]

Formula 1 meh toytown. put some proper fuel in the tank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF-H1dy_m_0

[DTCwordfan]

when it goes wrong, tony.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryGABpuXWyM

[tonyav]

I know, DT. I've seen that happen a few times at Santa pod. It usually blows the body clean off a funny car.

[DTCwordfan]

well, liquid methanol is beyond what comes up through your gas cooker and refrigerated!

[tonyav]

Great vid, DT. I'd love to go to one of those nostalgia meets at Bakersfield.