Still Think Driverless Cars Will Work?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46055595

[Zacs-Master]

They will work and they are coming. Stop it with the ‘people will suffocate over 28mph’ argument.

If they’re not coming, someone is wasting an awful lot of money in employing 1000 Kenyans to do the programming.

[ToraToraTora]

right oh ZM, let's wait......

[jim360]

I mean, I get that you don't like driverless cars, but maybe let's wait a little longer than a week between write-offs.

[jackthehat]

I'm not quite sure what you are criticising.
Is it Driverless Cars (because you always do), the low wages the Kenyans are being paid (capitalism at its' finest) or that the Kenyans (in your opinion) have been set a task beyond their capabilities?

[Zacs-Master]

Is that the sum total of your argument, Tora? Bit threadbare, ain’t it!

From the article they appear to be being paid a fairly standard wage for the area.

[ToraToraTora]

jim: "I mean, I get that you don't like driverless cars" - what gives you that Idea? I love the idea of Driverless cars but they are not feasible and what we'll end up with, so some can save face, will cause carnage on our roads. We cannot get a robot to make a cup of tea yet, how are they ever going to be able to take on the infinitely more complex task of driving?

[fiction-factory]

I'm one who has been optimistic about driverless cars but as I was driving today I wondered whether a driverless car would have coped with filling with fuel when my first pump was out of order so i had to reverse back and go to another, and then when I had to manoeuvre to park in a very tiny space without blocking someone's drive with a sign saying wheelchair access needed

[Zacs-Master]

What do you think 1000 Kenyans are doing 8 hours a day, ff ;-)

[jim360]

I mean, I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe driverless cars will cope with it by, you know, working on researching into the technology required.

Just a wild thought.

[spathiphyllum]

Yes, what about the article
Implies other wise?

[ToraToraTora]

FF add those to the myriad of things that will have to be catered for.
JIM: "I mean, I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe driverless cars will cope with it by, you know, working on researching into the technology required. " - Indeed, many breakthroughs are needed, not least of which is in software. Hardware gets better and better very quickly, Software not so and it's the latter that is the stumbling block here. Driverless cars are the modern equivalent of the Victorians trying to put a man on the moon. There is a lot of far simpler stuff that can't be done yet we should work on those first. Driverless vehicles? In a century or so maybe, not now.

[jim360]

I'm confused why you're so down on the software -- always on about this completely nonsensical idea that there have been no major software breakthroughs for, how long was it again? 20, 30 years? Maybe longer. I don't get where that attitude comes from.

[Khandro]

Cars go too fast through my village, so I look forward to holding out a stick or umbrella in front of them and they will screech to a halt.

In fact it will be a great game for naughty boys too.

[Zacs-Master]

As I said, what do you think 1000 Kenyans are working on 8 hours a day? I’m pretty sure whoever is backing the investment doesn’t equate it to Victorians planning a moon mission. I think they’re probably after much faster ROI.

[fiction-factory]

TTT- maybe you need to look at how we managed to get aeroplanes accepted, surgery using robots, computer guided rockets and missiles, autonomous lawnmowers, driverless trains. I'm sure there were lots of doubters. Can't you imagine the roads actually being safer when there are no drunk/unqualified/ underage/nearly blind/ aggressive/ show off drivers who act in an unpredictable way. Of course there are issues around pedestrians. cyclists etc but there is still a lot of time to develop and test the systems.

[ToraToraTora]

FF all those evolved from small steps in the correct order. We are tying to program driverless cars when we can't yet program a robot to do make a cup of tea. It's a forced leap.

[Zacs-Master]

Same question, Tora. What do you think 1000 Kenyans........

[ToraToraTora]

they are working on the system ZM, like it says in the article, do keep up.

[Zacs-Master]

Exactly. Which means someone is pumping millions into it and will be looking for a return on their investment.

[ToraToraTora]

this is a very good short video, predicting that true AI may emerge as early as 2050. It also says in the text: "A computer can beat the world chess champion and understand voice commands on your smartphone, but real artificial intelligence has yet to arrive. " - we will need a quantum leap and indeed quantum computing will help with the sheer volume of instructions needed but in the ends it's just a long list of machine instructions going through the CPU.