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Thought I would update, I managed (after a lot of turning the air blue) to apply for my driving licence online, used my notebook, rather than mobile phone, or tablet, which is what I was using originally, I managed to get a lot further, in the form, and it did ask for driving licence number, and the numbers on the back of photocard, and also the 2 numbers at the end of the 16 digit numbers. and just about everything else, national insurance number, passport number, but I am just relieved it's now done.