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Blue Mink - Melting Pot
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I would take issue with the lousy grammar used by Iain Lee, referring to the song as "A little bit racist ...".
There are no degrees of racism, something is either racist, or it's not.
Similarly, something cannot be 'almost unique' - it is either unique or it is not unique.
As to his overdeveloped sense of morality - I find it hard to believe that a man who plays pop records on the radio for a living has not heard this song before.
He either knows the words and plays it as a song of its time, or doesn't play it as inappropriate, but doesn't try to skate the middle line and look like a numpty doing it.
There are no degrees of racism, something is either racist, or it's not.
Similarly, something cannot be 'almost unique' - it is either unique or it is not unique.
As to his overdeveloped sense of morality - I find it hard to believe that a man who plays pop records on the radio for a living has not heard this song before.
He either knows the words and plays it as a song of its time, or doesn't play it as inappropriate, but doesn't try to skate the middle line and look like a numpty doing it.
When a BBC DJ got sacked for playing 'The Sun Has Got His Hat On' I can understand Iain Lee getting in a flap.
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I'm sure another BBC DJ got slated for playing Melting Pot last year.
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I'm sure another BBC DJ got slated for playing Melting Pot last year.
These DJ's have producers, whose job it is to select and vet material for playing on the air.
They are the ones who should be carpeted - as they should over the Ross / Brand debacle that was not intended by the two to be broadcast, but was allowed through by producers failing to do their job properly.
They are the ones who should be carpeted - as they should over the Ross / Brand debacle that was not intended by the two to be broadcast, but was allowed through by producers failing to do their job properly.
//but was allowed through by producers failing to do their job properly.//
they did their job - messrs ross and brand are perceived as "edgy", anything less and they'd be accused of losing it. and they'd have continued pushing the boundaries until outcry time - which probably came before they expected.
they did their job - messrs ross and brand are perceived as "edgy", anything less and they'd be accused of losing it. and they'd have continued pushing the boundaries until outcry time - which probably came before they expected.
hc4361 - "Wasn't the Ross/Brand disgrace broadcast live?"
No - and thereby lies the real responsibility for the incident.
Ross and Brand were larking about in the studio, behaving badly, no argument there - but what they did was clearly not suitable for broadcast on national radio. The producer(s) of the programme heard it, and broadcast it, so the real responsibility for the furore lies squarely with them.
I worked in local radio and often recorded inserts for a live show, and sometimes, late at night, we would mess around and record pieces that were totally unsuitable for broadcast. But we made very very sure that they never reached the ears of the producer, or that there was any danger of them being broadcast by mistake.
Producers are paid to oversee the content of broadcasts, and in this instance - they failed, and the public faces were hung out to dry.
No - and thereby lies the real responsibility for the incident.
Ross and Brand were larking about in the studio, behaving badly, no argument there - but what they did was clearly not suitable for broadcast on national radio. The producer(s) of the programme heard it, and broadcast it, so the real responsibility for the furore lies squarely with them.
I worked in local radio and often recorded inserts for a live show, and sometimes, late at night, we would mess around and record pieces that were totally unsuitable for broadcast. But we made very very sure that they never reached the ears of the producer, or that there was any danger of them being broadcast by mistake.
Producers are paid to oversee the content of broadcasts, and in this instance - they failed, and the public faces were hung out to dry.
mushroom - "they did their job - messrs ross and brand are perceived as "edgy", anything less and they'd be accused of losing it. and they'd have continued pushing the boundaries until outcry time - which probably came before they expected."
I think part of the remit of being a producer of a national radio programme is that you are expected to know where the line is between 'edgy' and unacceptable, and the difference between them.
If that is not the case - as it wasn't here, then you should be seen as unfit for purpose, and be dismissed for rank incompetence.
I think part of the remit of being a producer of a national radio programme is that you are expected to know where the line is between 'edgy' and unacceptable, and the difference between them.
If that is not the case - as it wasn't here, then you should be seen as unfit for purpose, and be dismissed for rank incompetence.
mushroom25 - "another example of yesterday's attitudes being judged by today's standards.
the same logic means that recordings by, or associated with, gary glitter, rolf harris, the lostprophets, etc cannot be played in public."
It's not the same logic at all.
The suitability of songs like Melting Pot, and The Sun Has Got His Hat On, are down to the words in the content of the songs - nothing to do with the artists who recorded them.
Recordings associated with Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and Lostprophets are shunned for the exact opposite reasons - the behaviour of their creators, not the content of the songs.
the same logic means that recordings by, or associated with, gary glitter, rolf harris, the lostprophets, etc cannot be played in public."
It's not the same logic at all.
The suitability of songs like Melting Pot, and The Sun Has Got His Hat On, are down to the words in the content of the songs - nothing to do with the artists who recorded them.
Recordings associated with Gary Glitter, Rolf Harris and Lostprophets are shunned for the exact opposite reasons - the behaviour of their creators, not the content of the songs.
