Boris Johnson

[Khandro]

I have supported him for a long time, but am beginning to wonder, my question now is; Is he a jerk?

[1ozzy]

So what is it 10C?
Care to explain

[emmie]

didn;t or doesn't your lot want to ban grammar schools,

[emmie]

so Eton, Harrow only churns out self serving people, not worth spit.

[emmie]

your family is your concern, they turned out well, so good for them.

[1ozzy]

Wow diddlydo

I'm as proud of your children as I am my own.

[diddlydo]

Indeed Emmie - Grammar Schools should not exist. If they take say 20% of the cohort via an 11-Plus test, it inevitably condemns the other 80% to thinking of themselves as "failures". Do you really think that's fair?

[emmie]

but you went to a grammar school, so you would ban them.

[emmie]

makes no sense.

[emmie]

surely if they didn't exist lots of people wouldn't have gone onto good careers, like yours for instance

[emmie]

not all think of themselves as failures, a high percentage go onto to UNi, that's got to be a good thing surely

[naomi24]

Diddly, to say Eton is not a good school is disingenuous. Of course it’s a good school. Likewise, grammar schools are good schools and to disband them is to deny the brightest of the poor opportunity. In any society - even the one you crave - you will never achieve equality. It doesn’t exist - and it doesn’t exist because one size does not fit all and it never will. You, dear lady, suffer from what’s known as inverted snobbery - and that, very often, is what keeps the poor... poor.

[dannyk13]

I agree with Naomi.

[emmie]

so do i,

[diddlydo]

Eton is bought with privilege and bestows privilege and unacceptable "values" on its pupils.

[diddlydo]

Sorry - I forgot Emmie's point. Yes I went to Grammar School because I passed the 11-Plus - there were no comprehensive schools when I was at school so that wasn't an option. Most areas don't have Grammar Schools today and the remaining ones should definitely be abolished.

[naomi24]

Diddly, //Eton is bought with privilege and bestows privilege //

That's what money does - in any society. I know someone who lives in a communist country and has to bribe the doctor for medicine for his son. Now there's something to aspire to!

//unacceptable values//

What are these values that you so object to - and to whom are they unacceptable? You ... me ... Uncle Tom Cobley?

[emmie]

so Eton doesn't have any redeeming qualities.

[emmie]

so you think that one should abolish Grammar schools, ones you aspired to,

[emmie]

But SKS went to a Grammar school didn't he?

[Bobbisox1]

My husband went to a grammar school and I'm pleased he did , his parents couldn't even afford the uniform so his grandmother pawned stuff to buy it, he went on to carve out a decent career for himself which now gives us a comfortable standard of living and he came from a working class family of seven! all my nieces and nephews in Kent attended grammar schools , they should reintroduce them .