Boris Johnson

[Khandro]

I have supported him for a long time, but am beginning to wonder, my question now is; Is he a jerk?

[Peter Pedant]

sozza candy some way away
BUT

worf recording in all this - there have been sink schools ( sort of forever) But the thing is - - they stay sink for far longer than one person ( a headmaster ) can account for. sink give way to sink

some of the skools in my area - grandfathers admit that they were pretty terrible when they were there fifty years ago

[First observed (this is where Abers complain their heads hurt) in 1920 in colonial Nigeria. The muslims states ( Nigeria goes around in states yeah) had always been better governed than the christian. each in an unshakeable groove it seemed]

[Khandro]

For the record, I passed the 11 plus and went to a 'High School' (Whitworth street, Manchester) which was converted into a Grammar School during my presence there.

[emmie]

i am sure you had a good education.

[emmie]

i didn't, but i chose my path elsewhere, work was better for me than staying on.

[Peter Pedant]

is this it?
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/143552306859830432/

oppo the manchester uni bldg which used to be MANUT
and turned into the Shena Simon teaching college?
It is actually - - still there

[Peter Pedant]

The difference Chris in Manchester is that parents if they get their arrisses into gear can get their children into good schools.

and yes the sink schools I was referring to are around 2 mi up the Oldham Rd from yours.

[Khandro]

PP wow! those photos bring back some memories, the far end of the building - down Sackville street was the girls school - boys & girls were segregated, we never saw them, they could have been on another planet. I think co-ed was another education blunder.

Also the Refuge Insurance Building now looks from the pics to be 'The Palace Hotel' well I never.

[Khandro]

I can even remember the 1st form register - don't believe me?
Allion (Greek), Archer, Baker, Barratt, Berry, Broadbent, Brown, Cohen, Crooks, Dawson, Drewery, Foster, Gerrity, Higham, Holden, Mc Clanahan, Meakin, Morris, Olley, O'hare, Parker, Porter, Radiven, Reece, Rudd, Smith, Smith, Whitfield, Wilson, Wragg.

I'm in there folks, but wonder how many of them are still around.

[theshedman]

diddly not being awkward just saying that where I now live the school my wife went to was a secondary modern one day and a comprehensive the next, same teachers, same pupils same classrooms so where are they not the same.

[diddlydo]

So when your secondary modern became a comprehensive it would have accepted kids of every ability from the least able to the brightest. The latter would have previously been creamed off into one of the grammar schools. The fact that the buildings and the staff remained the same is irrelevant - the intake would have been different unless any grammar schools in your area opted out of the system and became direct grant grammars.

[Apc2604]

He was voted in by the party not the public. I still support the Conservatives and how they are handling things because the opposition would fail miserably regardless of having a new leader. As for Boris I like him and he is no a jerk. But I think Gove may be a better Prime Minister. Boris is extremely intelligent, but stumbles a lot and has tried to please us far too much. Gove would be a lot stricter and I would support that.

[Apc2604]

And if Gulliver turns up on here and say I idolise Boris, will someone clobber him for me.

[Jackdaw33]

I went to a direct grant school. They were academic hothouses, not for the faint-hearted. They were abolished under Labour in 1976.

[emmie]

which i what i was trying to say, that we didn't elect Boris, the Party did that, but i would rather he hung on in there for the time being. I don;t think that any more divisions in the Tory party is a good thing, we don't need a leadership challenge right now,

[diddlydo]

Jackdaw " They were abolished under Labour in 1976."

And quite right too.

[grumpy01]

Boris is a very good campaigner and if you wanted somebody to win an election or referendum for you he is the man.However,not entirely of his own making,COVID has found out his lack of true Prime Ministerial ability.

[Apc2604]

I went to a direct grant school too for 2 years after a family move from London where I went to an all girl's grammar. The school was part fee paying and part scholarship. I received a good education at both but hated the second school because the fee paying girls were treated better!

[ichkeria]

Absoluely right grumpy.
I also agree that what is not needed now is a change of leader at the top.
But a serious cabinet shuffle IS required in the New Year.

[Apc2604]

I would fully support the return of Grammar Schools.

[gulliver1]

"Johnson The Jerk"