What Did The Conservatives Achieve In The Last 14 Years?

[Untitled]

other than simply being in charge?

[10ClarionSt]

The "increasing Islamification of Britain" is already under way and nobody will be able to stop it. This country will eventually become an Islamic nation. It'll take time, but it will happen.

The Labour Party was formed as the party of the working people. Working people get everything they have from, guess what? Yep, working, not exploiting workers and reaping the profits of their hard work via shares, whilst sitting on their a  r  s  e  s.

[ToraToraTora]

this is a classic trap question. Doesn't matter what anyone says it will be dismissed as pointless, silly , not needed, would have hapenned anyway ....etc etc.

What did Noo Layba achieve 1997-2010?

[ToraToraTora]

10cs Perlease, working people get their money from working but their jobs are created by the creators of wealth, ie the private sector. The state only consumes it does not create wealth. List to TGL created what you have too:

 

[ToraToraTora]

listen!

[naomi24]

//The Labour Party was formed as the party of the working people.//

 

Today's Labour Party is a far cry from the original and is no longer the party of the working man.  Pity Labour voters can't see it.

 

//not exploiting workers and reaping the profits of their hard work via shares,//

 

Labour voters don't hold shares?  Really?  Look again, clarion.

 

The swear filter is there for a purpose.  Please don't try to avoid it  Posts that do risk being removed - hence your efforts to contribute to the discussion will have been wasted.  

[THECORBYLOON]

"working people get their money from working but their jobs are created by the creators of wealth, ie the private sector."

What about the six million folk working in the public sector?

[ynnafymmi]

As much as i despise the Tories and the SNPers,i cant really see if there will be much of a change of policies if the Tories and SNP are ousted.The whole country seems to get sh*fted whoever is in power.

[naomi24]

ynna, what do you regard as 'getting shafted'?

[Untitled]

fascinating that you see it as a trap toratoratora. why don't you just say what in your opinion the party has actually achieved besides being in charge. 
 

khandro gave us an example in brexit... which was something the party was forced into bringing about but fair's fair they did eventually do it. i'm not a fan as you know but on their own terms it is an achievement. 
 

anything else?

[Untitled]

"What did Noo Layba achieve 1997-2010?"

for the record i am very critical of new labour because of Iraq but they did have many achievements such as... 

minimum wage

civil partnerships 

independence of Bank of England 

significant decline in rough sleeping  

tens of thousands more teachers, doctors, and nurses 

cut NHS waiting lists and reduced A&E waiting times

massive efforts to clean rivers and beaches

less youth unemployment

massive reduction in death from heart disease and cancer 

what's the list for 2010-14? So far we have... brexit :/ 

[drmorgans]

 

Taking the first steps in getting rid of the Auld Enemy?

 

[naomi24]

Untitled, you forgot to list the abolition of the low-rate tax band for low paid workers, the selling off of our gold reserves at knock-down prices, the rifling of the 'working man's' pension pot, and the empty coffers at the end of it all.

[ToraToraTora]

doesn't matter what I say, for a start we don't even agree on what progress is, what things are good. eg your list at 12:44, they are only good things to you. So you just want me to say something so you can shoot it down. Not playing that game.

[Untitled]

Naomi

he asked me about NL's achievements. i am very critical indeed of NL and consider Iraq an evil thing... the worst thing a UK government has done in my lifetime. but if asked what their achievements were then that is my answer. 
 

"doesn't matter what I say, for a start we don't even agree on what progress is, what things are good."

we don't need to! tell me what you think they have achieved on their own terms... i don't agree with brexit for instance but it is definitely something they wanted to do and completed... alternatively tell me what you think they have achieved based on your idea of what is good other than simply being in office. what in your opinion do they have to show for 14 years in office?

[Untitled]

"So you just want me to say something so you can shoot it down. "

well this is a discussion website so i am not sure why you consider this to be a problem... but ok, you have the floor. i promise i won't reply. i'll let you have the last word. what in your opinion have they achieved?

[naomi24]

untitled, but their 'achievements' left the country skint!  Some achievement!

[Old_Geezer]

Passing vital control for the economy on to an external entity seems more a screw up than an achievement.

[Peter Pedant]

being in charge - vay vay important for the knobs and Lords

Look at Netanyahu. No, dont look at Netanyahu - there is blood on his hands!

[Untitled]

the global economic crisis in 2008 did that naomi. regardless, i am trying to answer tora's question... 

the only reply i've had to mine so far is "brexit". is that really it? 

[davebro3]

Labour left the country in such a great state in 2010 that the Cons didn't really need to do much at all!