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Can the Queen Dissolve Parliament without Gordon Brown's say so?

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potterfan3 | 09:31 Sat 06th Jun 2009 | Politics
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I understand that general elections come after the Queen has dissolved parliament, at the request of the current Prime Minister. Can she do it without the request? Can someone else like Cameron or Clegg request her to do it?

I know she's supposed to stay politically neutral but Gordon Brown's lost the plot and he's staying in office even though he wasn't voted in and the people clearly want him out (as evidenced by the election results). Some democracy eh?

Besides, it's been 4 years since the last election anyway. (I know the elections can be 5 years apart, but alot of them seem to be 4 years apart.)
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The last time a monarch tried to meddle with parliament he was beheaded in Whitehall.
The queen is just a ceremonial figure and things should stay like that.
Why would the Queen want to do this even were she so empowered?

And what right do Cameron or Clegg have to ask it, either?

The recent elections have proved absolutely nothing except to return the kind of results we always get in respect of an incumbent government.

How exactly has Brown "lost the plot"? The dissidents in his midst, Blairites, have bailed out hoping to oust Brown and get their own "man" in instead. But with less than a year to a general election, what would they achieve?

People have jumped onto a "bin Brown" bandwagon but haven't a clue why!
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"Why would the Queen want to do this even were she so empowered?

And what right do Cameron or Clegg have to ask it, either?"

What right does Brown have to stay in power?

We live in a "democracy" where people don't want Brown. He even said he wasn't gonna call an election because "a conservative government would.....", I can't remember how he finished it but it was basically because "I will lose". If this is the case he shouldn't be in power anymore anyway. And If he won't remove himself from power, I was asking if anyone else could.

I think he's time's running out anyway, because I have a feeling his party will kick him out soon.

I don't want conservative to win, but Brown has got to go.
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http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/

66,000 want him out

it's most popular petition on the site. the second most popular one only has half of this
potterfan3:

I hate to say that you also are sounding like a politician, but you are! And let me tell you why: I asked you to tell me how Brown has "lost the plot" and, exactly like an MP, you've totally failed to give me an answer!

Now I don't care if we're talking about Brown, Cameron, Clegg or whoever, but anyone coming on here making such a sweeping statement about the PM should at least be able and prepared to justify it!
I don't think he has lost the plot, but the plot has not been played out yet.
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Why's he lost the plot? Because he thinks he can stay in power despite no one in the public, or his former cabinet, wanting him.
the queen (via her governor-general) sacked the Australian government back in the 1970s, so I suspect she could do the same here, but she won't. The political system is based on five-year parliaments, so when you elect a someone that's how long they stay. (That's 'what right he has to stay in power': people voted for him.) No good saying after a couple of months 'Hang on, I changed my mind, let me vote again'.

However, you can do this in some places in the USA - that's how Schwarzenegger got in: people got tired of the man they'd voted in previously and voted him out again before his term ended. There's no provision for this in the UK system, and just as well, I think. Governments should be allowed to take a long-term view.
PS just to clarify: voters don't elect a prime minister, his party colleagues choose him as their leader, and could remove him. The public elect individual MPs.
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I know how the voting system works but when we voted Labour Brown wasn't leader. And by voting for a MP of a political party you're effectively voting for the leader of that party to be PM, hence we didn't elect Brown to be PM, we elected Blair.
You vote for your MP in the knowledge that he/she will represent you for 5 years or less. Some parliaments go the full 5 years, and some are called early when the incumbent Prime Minster judges it opportunist to do so, Thatcher after the Falklands War for example.

It clearly is not in Brown's interest to call an election now. It is not in Labour MPs interest to trigger an election now, so why so many of them want one is a mystery.

Brown has not lost the plot. Many Tory as well as Labour MPs were fiddling their expenses. By your measure, Cameron has also lost the plot. The Global Financial meltdown is affecting every country in the world. Most countries in the world have followed Brown's measures> Do you really think Osborne would have done a better job? When asked what they would have done, they have effectively said they would have done nothing.

Labour have been in power too long and the voters are ready for a change. But they have to wait for Brown to decide when.

In a democracy, you do not seek to change the rules about dissolving a parliament based on elections where the turnout is less than 30%.
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