Cowardly EDL member convicted for attacks on old men.

[Gromit]

// An ENGLISH Defence League member who threatened two elderly asian men has been handed a suspended prison sentence.

Darren Buck, 50, was involved in the demonstration with the far-right group in Halifax town centre on April 16.

Calderdale Magistrates Court heard how around 200 EDL members turned out for the demonstration which they claimed was in protest at two of their number being attacked the week before.

At around 2.30pm police reported that a large gathering of protestors were congregating outside The Plummet Line pub, Bull Close Lane, Halifax, and were trying to break through the police line.

It was at this time that officers saw Buck, a former sheet metal worker, acting aggressively towards the two elderly asian men.

Officers said he was seen trying to punch the two men but he missed and was consequently arrested. //

http://www.halifaxcou...sed_old_men_1_3496010

Peaceful demonstrators?

[jackthehat]

Lots of people 'spoke out' about the poppy-burning and few were called racists.

[Brenden]

The difference being Em they love England, like we do.

[emmie]

JTH perhaps, but if this was the USA and you set fire to the American flag, you would likely end in jail. As a supporter of the RBL, i do my bit, but i don't care for these rabble who spit on our way of life, and even if they have a grievance over our presence in Afghanistan, can't see how this is allowed.

[jackthehat]

And I ask, again, what does *that* have to do with Darren Buck's attack on 2 elderly Asian gentlemen ?

[emmie]

that in their boneheadness, the EDL plonkers will take it out on anyone they see as foreign, old asian, young asian, they don't know, nor care. Mindless thuggery, i said so at the beginning.

[jackthehat]

Thankyou.
So burning poppies is nothing to do with this, as I thought. And burning poppies is not 'allowed', those who committed this act were, in turn, prosecuted.
There is simply NO excuse for attacking anyone because their skin-tone is different from yours.

[emmie]

its linked, if you can't see that sorry. Like always you have your opinion, but i have mine.

[jackthehat]

It's not linked.

The poppies were NOT burnt in Halifax and they weren't burnt by these two elderly Asian men........

[emmie]

The EDL don't think like you, they will take their bile out on anyone, and the person who burned the poppy was fined £50.00. Why don't we stick them all in a field and let them fight it out, and then we can all get on with our lives.

[Zeuhl]

Hey a few Jewish people in Baden Baden burned the swastika
That means they all want to blow us up.

I know, let's throw them all into camps and gas them ....

[DrFilth]

Gromit there is something wrong here
>> It was at this time that officers saw Buck, a former sheet metal worker, acting aggressively towards the two elderly asian men.

Officers said he was seen trying to punch the two men but he missed and was consequently arrested. <<

how does a 50 year old thug try to punch 2 old men then miss ( two old men )

if this was a asian man trying to punch two old men and this story was in the mail a lot on here would say it was made up

if this guy was p****ed as a newt he should have made contact with one of them do you not think that has been added in to make him sound more thuggish

[Gromit]

// how does a 50 year old thug try to punch 2 old men then miss //

He had just fallen out of the pub. My reading was he was probably very drunk. It is certainly not clever to attempt such an attack while being watched by the police. As for AOG's remark that the old gentlemen could have provoked Buck in some way, the attack was witnessed by the police, he was arrested, went to court and convicted. If the attack was self defence, he would not have been arrested or convicted.

[emmie]

Zeuhl, so called civilised people looked the other way when that was happening, and many people look the other way in Britain, over the problems we face through cultural differences, not to do with the colour of the persons skin. I looked at some video of riots in Harrow, the EDL, relatively few in number, were there protesting about the building of a new mosque in Harrow, and the police were out in force, but over a 1,000 asians turned out, so who's right and who's wrong, you tell me.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// AOG's remark that the old gentlemen could have provoked Buck in some way, the attack was witnessed by the police, he was arrested, went to court and convicted. If the attack was self defence, he would not have been arrested or convicted. ///

How could the police possibly hear what exchanges took place unless of course they were standing by the side of Buck?

Apart from that do you honestly think that if the tables had been reversed, and it had been an Asian who had been seen 'ATTEMPTING' to hit an EDL member, the police would have have arrested the Asian?

Taking into account the police's strict instructions to operate a 'softly, softly, approach towards certain ethnic groups, I don't think so somehow.

[Gromit]

AOG
// At around 2.30pm police reported that a large gathering of protestors were congregating outside The Plummet Line pub, Bull Close Lane, Halifax, and were trying to break through the police line.

It was at this time that officers saw Buck, a former sheet metal worker, acting aggressively towards the two elderly asian men. //

During these Skinhead away`days, it is the police's job to watch two sides very closely.

Do you have any evidence the police have strict "instructions to operate a 'softly, softly, approach towards certain ethnic groups"? Who is instructing them and why?

[DrFilth]

Gromit>>
// how does a 50 year old thug try to punch 2 old men then miss //

He had just fallen out of the pub. My reading was he was probably very drunk. It is certainly not clever to attempt such an attack while being watched by the police <<



in the report from your link

>> protestors were congregating outside The Plummet Line pub, Bull Close Lane, Halifax, <<

it never states that he had even had a drink they were congregating outside The Plummet Line pub not in it

[sp1814]

Gromit

Certain people (normally bigoted idiots themselves) will squirm away trying to defend the indefensible (young men attacking Asians).

Pathetic.

[DrFilth]

i know just what you mean sp

bigot (plural bigots)

One who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

[sp1814]

DrFilth

Agreed.

I also use the synonym 'haters'. Not only do they hate, but they generate hate in those who they hate. They bring nothing but negativity to the world.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Certain people (normally bigoted idiots themselves) will squirm away trying to defend the indefensible (young men attacking Asians).///

Come on sp who are these certain people, name names or are you afraid you might get into trouble with the Ed, for using such offensive terms.

Young man attacking Asians??????

The man was 50 hardly young, plus the fact that he did not attack those Asians, in fact he didn't harm a hair on their head.

Much, much worse takes place outside clubs and pubs, but really anyone is arrested unless of course someone is badly injured.

So in this instance it is you sir that is the bigoted idiot, DrFilth's definition of a bigot, fits you perfectly.