Shameful sackings of Gurkhas, RAF and Navy personnel.

[Gromit]

// Almost 150 Gurkhas are to be sacked due to defence cuts after only a handful volunteered for redundancy, figures obtained by The Daily Telegraph

Hundreds of RAF and Royal Navy personnel will also be made compulsorily redundant on Sept 1 as only half have agreed to take the voluntary package.

A total of 17,000 personnel will be dismissed from the Armed Forces over the next three years. //

http://www.telegraph....cking-of-Gurkhas.html

Weren't we promised at the election that they would properly support our troops? That they would get the manpower and equipment to do the job safely? Spectacular fail.

[Gromit]

Conservative Election Manifest: Page 105

[ Support our brave armed forces

We will always ensure our forces have the resources they need to carry out their mission properly, and we will press other members of nato to take their fair share of the military burden.

Our Strategic Defence and Security review will ensure that resources for our armed forces are matched to our foreign policy requirements.

Our commitment to look after the armed forces and their families – the military Covenant – has been allowed to fall into disrepair. this is one of the most damning failures of gordon brown’s government. We will restore the military Covenant and ensure that our armed forces, their families and veterans are properly taken care of. ]

[R1Geezer]

what's up Gromit? missing your Noo Labour buddies eh? Why don't you go down the townhall and see if they've still got a five day lesbian outreach worker against the bomb theatre workshop operative that can give you a bit of councilling?
Nasty Tories, there there, Tony will make it better!

[buildersmate]

No - spectacular bit of self-interest by vested parties in the military, being reported as 'fact' by a Right-Wing newspaper.
Part of quote from Major David Owens " and have pretty much spent their entire life on operations". Oh yeah, pull the other one.
Total army manpower is around the 100k mark. Just how many of these army personnel do you think are actually on front-line duties at any one time? More than 15%? - simple maths really

[Gromit]

Geezer,

I went to the library to read the Conservative Election Manifesto - it was in the Fiction section.

[youngmafbog]

This rather contradicts news at the weekend saying that they were swamped by voluntary redundancy requests. For that it seemed the left used it to blame poor morale, now its the other way. Can't have it both ways though.

As an ardant pinko I would have thought you would be pleased the armed forces are being shrunk, or have you caught His Toniness' warmongering bug?

On a serious note though, the armed forces need to recognise that warfare has chanaged. Ghurkhas were fine when we wanted to slice up the Nips in WW2, but imagine them going into Afghanistan and doing that. The Ambulance bill for all the right on pinkos choking on their muselei would run into the millions.

We as a country also need to stop being the worlds policeman, we get no thanks, infact just the opposite so we should stay out, reduce our armed forces down to defence only and be happy.

[youngmafbog]

Next to Browns book on the economy then Gromit ?

[R1Geezer]

yes Gromit right next to the labour one!

[DrFilth]

just paper talk our brave boys and girls, the nhs and the teachers are safe under the tories

with a little help from the liberals


two tories will see nessie next week to kickstart the holiday season

[ChuckFickens]

Nice to see the Telegraph seems to think that "sacked" and "redundant" are the same thing.

[anotheoldgit]

Regarding the sacking of some of the Gurkhas, isn't that the correct way to go ie 'British jobs for British workers'?

And to be fair it is not only them who are losing their jobs, is it?

[buildersmate]

Chuck - it is.
'Sacking' is a red-top newspaper term for 'dismissal' - but sacking sounds far more emotive, so why use the proper term?
'Redundancy' is one of the fair reasons for dismissal (fair used in a legal since rather than a sense of being 'just')

[buildersmate]

.......... and another thing. The Gurkha employability became a whole lot more marginal after the interfering busy-body from the world of entertainment ran a campaign to give acquired rights to the Gurkhas that they never had before. Net result - total cost of employment goes up, and net value provided for the cost goes down.
Should have learnt this from the Fleet Street printers' union campaign 30 years ago. In the end the requirement for the service goes diminishes down to zero.

[Gromit]

buildersmate

You cant say that about Saint Joanna!!

[emmie]

youmafbog, that what i heard on the news, that many have asked for voluntary redundancy. Did we hear something that others didn't?

[redman41]

This Country could not defend itself against an Enemy using Bows and Arrows, back to the dark ages with Cameron and Clegg.

[Gromit]

em10

If you read the link, it says...

// Only six Gurkhas have chosen voluntary redundancy out of the 150 demanded by the Ministry of Defence //

[emmie]

Brown and Blair first.