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Are the new bulbs an EC con?
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http://www.express.co...r-energy-saving-bulbs
Do you go along with this latest condemnation of the 'new bulbs' or are they the best thing since sliced bread?
Do you go along with this latest condemnation of the 'new bulbs' or are they the best thing since sliced bread?
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This hazardous waste rubbish is a newspaper con
The mercury emitted from power stations powering the old bulbs outweighs what is in CF bulbs by a factor of 3!
http://en.wikipedia.o...t_source_EPA_2008.svg
If you break one your exposure for a short period of time might just exceed the advisory limit for long term exposure.
Basically Rupert Mudoch and pals loathe the EU and are trying to make everybody paranoid about anything they do - and if that involves telling everybody lies and half truths I don't think they care very much
The mercury emitted from power stations powering the old bulbs outweighs what is in CF bulbs by a factor of 3!
http://en.wikipedia.o...t_source_EPA_2008.svg
If you break one your exposure for a short period of time might just exceed the advisory limit for long term exposure.
Basically Rupert Mudoch and pals loathe the EU and are trying to make everybody paranoid about anything they do - and if that involves telling everybody lies and half truths I don't think they care very much
I don't like the slow light up with these new bulbs now but I tend to leave them switched on if I am leaving the room for a few minutes which sort of defeats the object of energy saving ...... and I am concerned re putting one in the light up the landing........I would probably been already downstairs by the time it reached full brightness, which sort of defeats the object yet again!
We are definitely not using these energy saving bulbs. We have stock piled the old ones and hope they will last us out until something better is developed. These new bulbs may last longer but from people I know who have used them, they say that they get dimmer and dimmer with use so they need to be changed before they pop off. There ate lots of American sites you can find and the thing they stress mostly is the fact that if you break one you should never vacuum it up.
I was amused at an article on the BBC news yesterday. They said that the old 60w tungsten bulbs would no longer be available. This was to “encourage” householders to switch over to the new, useless, dangerous type.
Encourage????? Why didn’t they use the correct word which is to “force”? Householders are being forced to use the new type as there will be no alternative. The amount of electricity saved (something like 45 watts per bulb) is piffling. I would far rather the EU directed its “encouragement” towards store owners who insist on leaving their doors wide open in the middle of January then using a “curtain” heater to heat the street up nicely. I looked at one of these in a large supermarket just recently. It was 22.5kW. The store is open 24/7 so in January it will consume over 500kW of juice per day. Assuming a new lightbulb is used for eight hours a day (a very conservative estimate) the store’s heating will negate the effect of more than 30,000 of them.
I have one of these bulbs in my lower hall. When I switch it on the room gets darker. I have to make an appointment to go upstairs as there is insufficient light to see my way for about five minutes after switching on. Wonderful !!
Encourage????? Why didn’t they use the correct word which is to “force”? Householders are being forced to use the new type as there will be no alternative. The amount of electricity saved (something like 45 watts per bulb) is piffling. I would far rather the EU directed its “encouragement” towards store owners who insist on leaving their doors wide open in the middle of January then using a “curtain” heater to heat the street up nicely. I looked at one of these in a large supermarket just recently. It was 22.5kW. The store is open 24/7 so in January it will consume over 500kW of juice per day. Assuming a new lightbulb is used for eight hours a day (a very conservative estimate) the store’s heating will negate the effect of more than 30,000 of them.
I have one of these bulbs in my lower hall. When I switch it on the room gets darker. I have to make an appointment to go upstairs as there is insufficient light to see my way for about five minutes after switching on. Wonderful !!
I quite like them. I`m quite happy to leave a lamp on when I go out for the evening, knowing I`m only burning 8W and not 60W. I was talking to a man in the lighting shop the other week about trying to get a more powerful bedside lamp bulb. He said that Phillips and co. make really cheap, ineffective ones for the DIY store market. He showed me a commercial standard low energy bulb and it was far superior to the 99p ones. The only complaint I have is that they don`t make soft-tone coloured bulbs.
I use to have 4 60w security bulbs outside my house which each had to be replaced 3 times each winter. This involved ladders and working in the cold. A hateful job.
Since changing to low energy 3 years ago I haven't had to change any.
Apart from any savings in energy the very fact I dont have the hassle of replacing them is worth their weight in gold.
With regards to dimness I replaced my 60 watt bulbs with 18 watt low energy , which use a third of the power but I have measured it and they emit slightly more lumens ( brightness ) after 1 minute.
I have just examined 3 different makes and none of them mention any special requirements for disposing of them and even if they did, once in ten years is no big deal.
Since changing to low energy 3 years ago I haven't had to change any.
Apart from any savings in energy the very fact I dont have the hassle of replacing them is worth their weight in gold.
With regards to dimness I replaced my 60 watt bulbs with 18 watt low energy , which use a third of the power but I have measured it and they emit slightly more lumens ( brightness ) after 1 minute.
I have just examined 3 different makes and none of them mention any special requirements for disposing of them and even if they did, once in ten years is no big deal.
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