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Are these points too draconian?
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I was recently repeatedly asked to outline 6 bullet points on the actions that I would take if I was in Number 10.
To which I replied:
Too late now, if you had asked this question 50 odd years ago, then perhaps we could have helped to solve some of today's problems.
1. All British passports to be considered void, on the granting of independence from British rule.
2. Limit immigration to include only self financing skilled persons.
3. Immigrants to learn English, and then to apply for British citizenship.
4. Ban on certain items of clothing that is alien to our culture.
5. No dispensations from the law of the land
6. Restrictions on the type of architecture, that is liable to change the face of English towns, cities and villages.
To which my original taunter was strangely 'As quiet as the grave'.
My points were more recently copied by another ABer to somehow prove his point, but once again all was quiet as the tumble-weed blew down the street.
I now enter these 6 bullet points once again, to ask ABers their opinions on them, and all I ask is for constructive non abusive answers.
To which I replied:
Too late now, if you had asked this question 50 odd years ago, then perhaps we could have helped to solve some of today's problems.
1. All British passports to be considered void, on the granting of independence from British rule.
2. Limit immigration to include only self financing skilled persons.
3. Immigrants to learn English, and then to apply for British citizenship.
4. Ban on certain items of clothing that is alien to our culture.
5. No dispensations from the law of the land
6. Restrictions on the type of architecture, that is liable to change the face of English towns, cities and villages.
To which my original taunter was strangely 'As quiet as the grave'.
My points were more recently copied by another ABer to somehow prove his point, but once again all was quiet as the tumble-weed blew down the street.
I now enter these 6 bullet points once again, to ask ABers their opinions on them, and all I ask is for constructive non abusive answers.
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"the propaganda, that was implemented by the Government at that time, to make the huge influx of immigrants to this country more acceptable to the indigenous population. "
Nonsense. They were invited, and needed, by the government to fill labour shortages.
Around 1960, the Tory health minister invited Caribbean women to come to Britain to train as nurses.
His name? Well, his given name was Enoch...
Nonsense. They were invited, and needed, by the government to fill labour shortages.
Around 1960, the Tory health minister invited Caribbean women to come to Britain to train as nurses.
His name? Well, his given name was Enoch...
Point 1. Many white Rhodesians returned to the motherland when Mugabe took power there. Would you have denied them the right of return?
A few years back when Amin took control of Uganda he persecuted the Indian population. Would you have left them all there?
Point 2. Who will do the jobs that we in the UK now think too demeaning if we don't allow some unskilled people to come here?
A few years back when Amin took control of Uganda he persecuted the Indian population. Would you have left them all there?
Point 2. Who will do the jobs that we in the UK now think too demeaning if we don't allow some unskilled people to come here?
“They were invited, and needed, by the government to fill labour shortages.”
That may have been true in the distant past, jno. However, the electorate has been bamboozled into believing this has been so in the recent past (five to fifteen years) as well. This has not been the case. During that period the UK has seen unemployment of (depending whose estimate you believe) of between two and five million. And yet, during that same period some one to two million people came to this country and have found themselves gainful employment. Meanwhile, the two to five million unemployed refuse to do the work the newcomers are willing to do and are paid to sit at home watching the racing on Channel 4.
Until this problem is addressed the UK will never prosper.
That may have been true in the distant past, jno. However, the electorate has been bamboozled into believing this has been so in the recent past (five to fifteen years) as well. This has not been the case. During that period the UK has seen unemployment of (depending whose estimate you believe) of between two and five million. And yet, during that same period some one to two million people came to this country and have found themselves gainful employment. Meanwhile, the two to five million unemployed refuse to do the work the newcomers are willing to do and are paid to sit at home watching the racing on Channel 4.
Until this problem is addressed the UK will never prosper.
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redhelen
/// So its muslim building you are against! Why not just have the balls and say that? ///
Not necessary, I would even be against anything like this.
http://www.travlang.c...moscow-kremlin-45.jpg
But i suppose some of you would be delighted to have one of these in England.
Sorry because of your sex I cannot return the insult, only to accuse you of making a sexist remark.
/// So its muslim building you are against! Why not just have the balls and say that? ///
Not necessary, I would even be against anything like this.
http://www.travlang.c...moscow-kremlin-45.jpg
But i suppose some of you would be delighted to have one of these in England.
Sorry because of your sex I cannot return the insult, only to accuse you of making a sexist remark.
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nannybooby
You picked me up earlier because you assumed I was referring to you, You also reminded me to speak to you, 12:41 Sat 15th Oct 2011
In my post timed 12:46 Sat 15th Oct 2011 I made a denial that I was referring to you, and also apologised to you if I gave that impression.
But unfortunately you wasn't courteous enough to reply back to me.
I would reply to your post timed 13:41 Sat 15th Oct 2011 if only I could understand what you were going on about.
Regarding to the one a minute later, I have chosen to show that one the contempt it deserves.
Sorry to take this attitude but you have forced it upon yourself.
You picked me up earlier because you assumed I was referring to you, You also reminded me to speak to you, 12:41 Sat 15th Oct 2011
In my post timed 12:46 Sat 15th Oct 2011 I made a denial that I was referring to you, and also apologised to you if I gave that impression.
But unfortunately you wasn't courteous enough to reply back to me.
I would reply to your post timed 13:41 Sat 15th Oct 2011 if only I could understand what you were going on about.
Regarding to the one a minute later, I have chosen to show that one the contempt it deserves.
Sorry to take this attitude but you have forced it upon yourself.
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1. agree, but seeing how many have them, going to be difficult to rescind
2. agree, have enough money to support yourself and a guaranteed job with legitimate work permit.
3. agree, have a good command of the language, then get your citizenship, simples
4. agree, though impossible to implement, just look at France.
5. agree, one law for all British citizens.
6. no more high rise, glass and steel buildings, whether in the capital or elsewhere, and ban construction of egg boxes they build for people to live in, and stop building Mosques, churches, Hindu temples, ashrams, and so forth.
7. all failed asylum seekers, and foreign born criminals to be repatriated to their place of birth.
draconian of course, and none of this will happen, but it's an interesting idea, debate.
2. agree, have enough money to support yourself and a guaranteed job with legitimate work permit.
3. agree, have a good command of the language, then get your citizenship, simples
4. agree, though impossible to implement, just look at France.
5. agree, one law for all British citizens.
6. no more high rise, glass and steel buildings, whether in the capital or elsewhere, and ban construction of egg boxes they build for people to live in, and stop building Mosques, churches, Hindu temples, ashrams, and so forth.
7. all failed asylum seekers, and foreign born criminals to be repatriated to their place of birth.
draconian of course, and none of this will happen, but it's an interesting idea, debate.
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