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Should he be allowed to go to school with this hairstyle?
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/// I would feel ridiculous without it, it makes me an individual. All my mates like it and some want it too.' ///
Yes a ridiculous individual it would seem.
/// I would feel ridiculous without it, it makes me an individual. All my mates like it and some want it too.' ///
Yes a ridiculous individual it would seem.
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@237SJ: Interesting point, but I think it's flawed. What you're saying is that uniformity enables concentration on 'the task at hand' - which is fine when you're talking about work, because most jobs are, if not wholly monotonous, then have a strongly monotonous/task-driven aspect to them.
But that's not the case with learning. What makes a good employee, surely, doesn't necessarily make a good pupil - learning requires engagement and energy, rather than monotonous concentration which is what you're describing.
But that's not the case with learning. What makes a good employee, surely, doesn't necessarily make a good pupil - learning requires engagement and energy, rather than monotonous concentration which is what you're describing.
He looks stupid with his hair like that and not 'cool' as he probably thinks.
It isn't really about haircuts - every so often some parent takes a stance against school rules and this is just another example. Rules are rules - you either conform to the rules or move on.
There are many rules in life and there are many laws that we have to obey (or not break) - it is all about compromise. The school aren't asking a vegan to dissect a hamster or anything unpleasant. The parents are not setting much of an example by backing him in this stupid crusade.
It isn't really about haircuts - every so often some parent takes a stance against school rules and this is just another example. Rules are rules - you either conform to the rules or move on.
There are many rules in life and there are many laws that we have to obey (or not break) - it is all about compromise. The school aren't asking a vegan to dissect a hamster or anything unpleasant. The parents are not setting much of an example by backing him in this stupid crusade.
Kromo, I so agree with you. A teacher at my son's school who had taught at non uniform schools overseas said that children learn far better when they are comfortable in clothes they like wearing and feel confident in and I can see why that might be. And you can still pick out the wealthy from the not wealthy even if they all wear uniforms - it stands out a mile.
Let them all wear jeans with holes in and T shirts if they wish!! They will still grow up as reasonable people and conform in society and wear uniforms for work if they have to.
Let them all wear jeans with holes in and T shirts if they wish!! They will still grow up as reasonable people and conform in society and wear uniforms for work if they have to.
lofty
///Let them all wear jeans with holes in and T shirts if they wish!! They will still grow up as reasonable people and conform in society and wear uniforms for work if they have to.////
There is no evidence whatsoever to justify that sweeping statement........do we have a large group of badly dressed schoolboys to compare with well dressed schoolboys?......I think not.
///Let them all wear jeans with holes in and T shirts if they wish!! They will still grow up as reasonable people and conform in society and wear uniforms for work if they have to.////
There is no evidence whatsoever to justify that sweeping statement........do we have a large group of badly dressed schoolboys to compare with well dressed schoolboys?......I think not.
I agree with sqad.
When you watch a visiting team getting off the coach, it's great to see an obvious "outsider" or "odd one out".
And when you visit another school, as you get out, you want to look almost identical. The message is ... if you take on one of us, you take on ALL of us.
The last thing you want is the weird kid with the dopey haircut getting off the coach with you.
If they cut you in half, what's written inside should be the name of your school ... not "I'm an individual".
When you watch a visiting team getting off the coach, it's great to see an obvious "outsider" or "odd one out".
And when you visit another school, as you get out, you want to look almost identical. The message is ... if you take on one of us, you take on ALL of us.
The last thing you want is the weird kid with the dopey haircut getting off the coach with you.
If they cut you in half, what's written inside should be the name of your school ... not "I'm an individual".
Squad, in my experience kids look awful in uniforms as they get older because they do their best to change the uniforms by hoisting skirts up shorter (girls!), doing silly knots in ties, wearing blazers with upturned collars, etc. etc. In my opinion they would look far better in casual clothes (the holey jeans were just me being silly!!!)
"There is no evidence whatsoever to justify that sweeping statement........do we have a large group of badly dressed schoolboys to compare with well dressed schoolboys?......I think not."
Actually, I believe there's quite an extensive body of research into uniform vs. non-uniform learning. I'm afraid I'm terribly well-read on it and don't really have the time to go and get references (which is why I haven't made the point up until now - kinda hoping another ABer who knows more about it might show up). But my basic understanding is that uniform policies don't necessarily come out tops.
Actually, I believe there's quite an extensive body of research into uniform vs. non-uniform learning. I'm afraid I'm terribly well-read on it and don't really have the time to go and get references (which is why I haven't made the point up until now - kinda hoping another ABer who knows more about it might show up). But my basic understanding is that uniform policies don't necessarily come out tops.
Lofty ...
If you let them wear jeans, the Jack Wills jeans kids are not going to hang out with the chain store jeans kids.
And the harsh reality about kids is ... they will make a big point of that sort of thing.
Parents on budgets would be under unbearable pressure to make sure their kids got jeans that they really couldn't afford.
If you let them wear jeans, the Jack Wills jeans kids are not going to hang out with the chain store jeans kids.
And the harsh reality about kids is ... they will make a big point of that sort of thing.
Parents on budgets would be under unbearable pressure to make sure their kids got jeans that they really couldn't afford.
"When you watch a visiting team getting off the coach, it's great to see an obvious "outsider" or "odd one out".
If they cut you in half, what's written inside should be the name of your school ... not "I'm an individual"."
I think that's a horrifying attitude. Why on earth should school competition come before the happiness and learning of kids who are different? How many kids -really- care about school pride or image compared to the number of adults? I think that's a terrible way to set priorities in education.
If they cut you in half, what's written inside should be the name of your school ... not "I'm an individual"."
I think that's a horrifying attitude. Why on earth should school competition come before the happiness and learning of kids who are different? How many kids -really- care about school pride or image compared to the number of adults? I think that's a terrible way to set priorities in education.
"Parents on budgets would be under unbearable pressure to make sure their kids got jeans that they really couldn't afford. "
As opposed to those delightfully cheap uniforms...
Anyway, as I said earlier - this happens outside and after school too. If we really care about that, we can solve the problem by addressing it in wider society or just by making an effort to teach kids that designer labels (or whatever) don't matter.
As opposed to those delightfully cheap uniforms...
Anyway, as I said earlier - this happens outside and after school too. If we really care about that, we can solve the problem by addressing it in wider society or just by making an effort to teach kids that designer labels (or whatever) don't matter.
All of that is beside the point, Lottie.
One of the functions of education, even in these enlightened times, is to prepare pupils for a life of gainful employment. On their travels through that life people often find they have to conform to sometimes seemingly ridiculous rules and regulations (including some about their appearance) laid down by their employers. They either conform to those rules or get out.
And so it is with school. The school may not “belong” to the head teacher, but he or she is charged with framing rules which are deemed appropriate. It’s called discretion, which seems to have gone out of fashion somewhat.
The child’s parents are doing him no favours. In fact they are harming his education and are filling him with false expectations about what he will encounter in life. Like it or not he will have to conform with rules with which he does not necessarily agree from time to time and the time to learn that is in school.
One of the functions of education, even in these enlightened times, is to prepare pupils for a life of gainful employment. On their travels through that life people often find they have to conform to sometimes seemingly ridiculous rules and regulations (including some about their appearance) laid down by their employers. They either conform to those rules or get out.
And so it is with school. The school may not “belong” to the head teacher, but he or she is charged with framing rules which are deemed appropriate. It’s called discretion, which seems to have gone out of fashion somewhat.
The child’s parents are doing him no favours. In fact they are harming his education and are filling him with false expectations about what he will encounter in life. Like it or not he will have to conform with rules with which he does not necessarily agree from time to time and the time to learn that is in school.
OK, maybe there is some arguement re- uniform schools versus non-uniformed schools but the original question was regarding someone not following uniform policy. There are a lot of good schools around my area. All of them uniformed. All I know is that when I see the kids from the good schools walking down the road they look smart and the kids from the new "academy" look less so. That says something to me. It says something about standards. The standards of education and discipline.
I kinda admire kromo's stance in all this, he's doggedly sticking to his (incorrect- lol) views. However you cannot have a society which is continually questioning the rules, if that's the case it's simply easier to do away with the rules/laws and have anarchy instead.
Whether you, like it or not, this school has a haircut policy. The Head is quite within his rights to say this child's haircut is unacceptable, it clearly is to him. The child's parents have two options by the looks of it, conform, and stop making your child look an idiot, or find a school with more lax rules.
Whether you, like it or not, this school has a haircut policy. The Head is quite within his rights to say this child's haircut is unacceptable, it clearly is to him. The child's parents have two options by the looks of it, conform, and stop making your child look an idiot, or find a school with more lax rules.
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