Gary Speed Inquest.

[Everhelpful]

Any thoughts as to the Verdict?

[NOX]

I think there's a lot of speculation about things we know nothing about, people with depression are hard to live with. I don't think his poor wife needs to be made to feel any more wretched than she must already by all sorts of lurid gossipmongering. No-one knows what state his marriage was in, and as I said earlier the way this is going she's going to be turned into the next Courtney Love.

[boxtops]

NOX, hear hear.

[FredPuli43]

The rule used to be, and maybe still is, that insurance companies would refuse to pay out on the death of someone who committed suicide. The Catholic church refuses to bury a suicide in consecrated ground. And a verdict of suicide would undoubtedly put greater strain on the widow than a finding that the death was accidental, even in these odd circumstances,because she could go through life blaming herself for the death, that he killed himself deliberately because of something she had said or done. That feeling may not be justified but is a likely feeling nonetheless.
Any one or more; I don't whether he was Catholic; may be applicable in the instant case. Coroners are very reluctant to find suicide if they can find any way to another verdict in such cases.

[micmak]

I love the word NUDGESCUFFLER. I am afraid I don't know who Courtney Love is.

[ummmm]

Mic...the wife of Kurt Cobain. Lead singer of Nirvana, who shot himself some years back. She gets the blame by some...

[boxtops]

I've just heard the report on the news again. Their relationship was strained, but he was depressed and that is hard to live with. She went for a drive and didn't come back in the house that night, he might have thought she'd left - there is no logic in the depressed mind, I can vouch for that. It sounds like a very tragic accident.

[ummmm]

Many people couldn't live with it.

Sad but true...

[craft1948]

I think welsh's comments are dreadful...............

[ummmm]

So do I. That's why I thought she had to be nudgescuffling.

[micmak]

According to his mates they saw no signs of depression. Whilst I feel for his family i cannot see that putting a ligature around you neck can be construed as an accident.

[ummmm]

I think the 'accident' claim comes from the fact that he 'might' have just wanted to scare her.

[micmak]

Maybe umm, didn't thunk of that. A hell of a scare though.

Welsh really does remind me of poodicat. And no I'm not nudgescuffling, just making an observation.

[ummmm]

lol...you're not the only one who thinks/says that :-)

[craft1948]

What mic you mean like doom and gloom and thinking the worst of people.....................no it's just co-incidental.

[micmak]

Craft, I think the best of everyone, until they prove me wrong. Happens a lot, being proved wrong.

[ummmm]

Still the best way to be micmak :-)

[craft1948]

Best way mic................you don't want to be banned like someone was for expressing their thoughts about poodi.

[micmak]

Speaking of No Know. I look in on SAB now and then. Is it him or an imposter?

[craft1948]

No it is him but he hasn't posted recently........

[anneasquith]

to return to the original op.........no thoughts or speculation. leave this family in peace.