Should this beer had been outlawed?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....awed-Commons-bar.html

What is it about the left have they lost the very little sense of humour they may have once had?

Perhaps this Labour MP should now exert her position as Labour's equalities spokesperson, and try and get those TV commercials that are demeaning to men, also banned?

[Fitzer]

As a real ale fan and member of CAMRA I do find the puerile naming of beers by some breweries to be deeply annoying, alluding to the strength, flatulence inducing properties or as in this instance just a gratuitous use of sexual imagery, are never going to help the image of beer as a drink to be considered on the same level as wine.

[Ankou]

lol. broken record. zzzz

[whiskeryron]

Daft cow !

Ron.

[emmie]

loads of ads on tv, newspapers, billboards that demean men,

http://www.dailymail....-try-doing-women.html

[Ankou]

fitzer, good point. i remember my days at the beer festivals. there was drink called fiddlers elbow. we all tried it and we all agreed that it probably came from the fiddlers ***. i'd have washed it down with a jar of top totty any day.

[Ankou]

"theres a lot of things i find offensiv to look at but not much I can do about it"

the mirror ?....



:o]

[vulcan]

Lord_Elpus, according to the newspaper she hadn't even seen it , there is a beer called "Fidler's elbow", perhaps that would be an appropriaite replacement.

[emmie]

personally i like spitfire, it has quite a nice taste and a bit of a kick.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Slater's Award Winning Top Totty ABV 4.0% ///

/// A stunning blonde beer full bodied with a voluptuous hop aroma. ///

/// Roger Protz - Beer Pages" ///

http://i.dailymail.co...005DC-735_468x567.jpg

What better picture suits this beer's description more?

Not sure about the 'hops aroma' though, much prefer a woman to have an aroma of Amor Amor myself.

[anotheoldgit]

Seeing that cocktails are mainly aimed at female drinkers, I wonder if she is also offended at the names of some of those?

[andy-hughes]

As usual, two sides of thinking line up on this type of debate -

It's all a bit of fun / get s sense of humour / there are worse things .....

It's offensive /puerile / demeaning / sexist ...

I see the split as simple to resolve.

If I think something is witty or funny, but it offends someone else, would it hurt me to let it go? Does it take years off my life if a minor adjustment is made to allow for the sensibikities of someone else? Is it appropriate for me to accuse the upset party of not sharing my sense of humour, or even lacking a sense of humour at all?

We live in a modern civilised society - so a little give and take makes the world turn. OK, it's not life-threatening to have this beer on sale - but the Commons should be setting an example of courtesy and consideration, and jeering comments, usually apended with the word 'love' are simply assisting the complainants in their argument that some men are living in an earlier and less pleasant age.

[NOX]

No not offensive imho, anymore than a chocolate bar aimed at women called 'Suckable Hunk' would be if it had a picture of an attractive man on the front. People really just need to get over themselves.

[anotheoldgit]

em10

Thanks for that link em, I don't know if you have seen it but the latest one that demean men, is the one that comes up before Coronation Street.

The woman on the settee who refuses to move to make room on the settee, for her partner.

And the one where two women are settling down to watch the soap, and refuse to let the male in, who is shouting to be let in, and where one says to the other, "He knows the rules".

[Brenden]

Wished I had such a well paying job just to look at beer labels - ludicrous.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// If I think something is witty or funny, but it offends someone else, would it hurt me to let it go? Does it take years off my life if a minor adjustment is made to allow for the sensibikities of someone else? Is it appropriate for me to accuse the upset party of not sharing my sense of humour, or even lacking a sense of humour at all? ///

You would have provided a good argument, if you had you headed it IMO.

Are you actually saying that if one (or a very few) finds something offensive, then that item should then be removed, taken off sale, not allowed to be spoken of, not allowed to be published, televised or shown in any other way, regardless of what the majority thinks?

That is not democracy but dictatorial, by a minority group that wish only for the things that they agree should be displayed, aired, or otherwise allowed.

[andy-hughes]

A fair point AOG.

No, I do not think that changes in advertising such as this should hinge on the opinion of one individual. Hopefully a degree of common sense can prevail.

But we must be aware of the fact that one person speaking up on behalf of a perceived silent majority is not just one person asking to be considered personally - it is someone who is speaking for others unable or unwilling to spewak for themselves.

I think each case has to be assessed on its merits - this is hardly earth-shattering in terms of offence, but it does smack of an outdated attitude which is not appropriate in a venue such as the Commons. That said, it would be unlikely to raise any eyebrows in a CAMRA-rated pub where such names are part and parcel of the experience.

It's a tricky one - and is going to cop up again and again - interesting debate though.