Police enforce drugs zero tolerance at school.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....tstanding-school.html

Was this school and the police correct in the way this strip and search operation was carried out?

/// The mother of one of the boys - not one of the two arrested - said the school had not warned parents in advance. ///

/// 'He's just very distraught by it all - very embarrassed. I feel my child has been victimised,' she told the BBC. ///

/// 'For police to actively go into the school and physically strip-search your child without your permission or knowledge, I'm outraged as I'm sure any parent would be.' ///

Surely this parent should realise that her child could have been one who had possessed drugs, also by informing parents first, it would have alerted all those who were carrying drugs to the police's activity?

Seems like another 'they can't do that to my child', scenario.

[wolf63]

Why don't they use dogs?

[sandyRoe]

"...the school had not warned parents in advance."
Does that mother think if there had been an advance warning issued there would have been drugs to be found?
I believe both school and police were correct.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Why don't they use dogs? ///

Some are frightened of dogs, but not the police.

[ummmm]

How else are they suppose to find drugs inside someones pants?

[Old_Geezer]

Strip searching 15 & 16 year olds ? Sounds like a job for pervs. They get away with it if they find a guilty party but otherwise, no, it's adults bullying kids. Could they have not watched and pounced when the drugs were passed ? Sound so me to be another case of the State crossing a line when dealing with defenseless members of the public. That is not the sort of society I wish mine to become.

[vulcan]

Their actions were justified when they found the drugs, good for the school and the Police.

[ummmm]

But they were breaking the law. If they're old enough to deal/take drugs then they are old enough to cope with the consequences. That means being stripped searched.

[shoota]

Old Geezer - surely if these people are old enough to commit a crime they are old enough to face the consequences?
Softly softly has led to the current state where these youngsters feel able to try and get away with this.
What about all the innocent youngsters that attend this school who may have been exposed to drugs by these two - do they not deserve protecting?

[Exmothian]

The end result doesn't always justify the means ... That's a typical Daily Mail type response!
Trained sniffers seem to be a reasonable solution as they counteract the
" everyone's a child molester" argument.
The police don't respond on a whim .... The evidence for possession must be pretty conclusive for them to act.

[Davethedog]

Ask yourself this:

1) How bad was/is the problem in this school?
2) Why pick those specific 10?
3) The mother may think her son is innocent, but I suspect they had good reason to pick him. Mother in denial, son in prison. Think of all thos dead budding footballers who where nothing but good to their Mum's.

Old_geezer don't you remember school? 14 year olds were the worse bullies and they didn't improve at 15. Just saying not arguing.

[anotheoldgit]

Old_Geezer

Is this a wind-up?

/// Strip searching 15 & 16 year olds ? Sounds like a job for
pervs. ///

Another excuse for not searching suspected knife carriers, gun carriers, or drug dealers, label the searchers perverts????????

/// it's adults bullying kids. ///

No it's adults searching youngsters of 15 & 16, should they also be exempt from airport searches?

/// Could they have not watched and pounced when the drugs were passed ? ///

Er, undercover police personnel dressed in school blazers for instance?

/// Sound so me to be another case of the State crossing a line when dealing with defenseless members of the public.///

15 and 16 year olds, defenceless members of the public ???? Where were you during last year's riots?

[doctordb]

exmothian- they won't allow sniffer dogs in schools beacause that would catch the teachers out too.

[B00]

Now see im torn. One part of me thinks "ha, good on them, let the little scrote suffer" however another part would not be too chuffed that my child was stripped search. I certainly wouldn't agree to having this done to myself, so why should my child suffer the indignity?

[shoota]

If reasonable grounds exist a strip search can be crried out without your consent - if necessary by arrest and removal to a Police station.

[B00]

Yes, but you'd still bloody complain though wouldn't you shoota?

Quite how the mother of one of the boys caught with drugs has the gall to complain about it though is another matter!

[ummmm]

Was it a full strip search, squat and cough?

[shoota]

I have no doubt that they would have been given the opportunity to surrender any illegal substances before the search commenced so they had only themselves to blame.
Whatever you feel about the right to use recreational drugs surely no one can condone the carrying/dealing (?) in a SCHOOL?

[ummmm]

It's not that Mother B00, it's one of the mothers of the boys that didn't get arrested.

[B00]

Ahhh, what I get for skim reading then- that'll teach me eh ummmm?

[bednobs]

whatever the mum may think of it (or us for that matter) the police behaved in a manner that was within the law, so i don't see what the problem is