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Jesus wept!
And God almighty!
Were uttered by Jeremy Clarkson in a recent show. This has led to an accusation that the BBC is blasphemous by a vicar.
http://www.telegraph....anguage-says-BBC.html
I am not a christian, so it does not offend me. And I do hear the expressions in everyday speech.
So is it offensive, anti-christian and blasphemous, or is this clergyman over sensitive?
Were uttered by Jeremy Clarkson in a recent show. This has led to an accusation that the BBC is blasphemous by a vicar.
http://www.telegraph....anguage-says-BBC.html
I am not a christian, so it does not offend me. And I do hear the expressions in everyday speech.
So is it offensive, anti-christian and blasphemous, or is this clergyman over sensitive?
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I doubt the Reverend is actually very offended (or he would spend a rather large amount of his time being shocked and appalled) as these are very common sayings in this country. I think the real point he was trying to make was that the BBC are careful not to offend Islam and that they should also pussy-foot around the Christian god - its a bit feeble minded of him in my opinion as the institution is not here to prompt or decry either of branch of what is probably the same bleeding religion all they are doing is having presenters talk in a culturally normal way for the programmes origin country (if they wanted to apply universally equal standards they would have to adopt all the worlds odd religious foibles / traditions / requirements which would of course only result in madness).
Using Allah's name is not common speech, jno. And Clarkson is hardly likely to say 'By the beard of the Prophet!', a quaint exclamation which I remember, from my youth, being ascribed to Muslims.Maybe Muslims do blaspheme and did, or do, use the name of Allah or those very words in their own languages. No doubt if they do they give rise to the same debate we are having (or none, where the ultra religious are in power and the religious police are active).
The point is , whatever the religion, is it offensive to a very significant number of people or is it generally accepted as ordinary speech ?
The point is , whatever the religion, is it offensive to a very significant number of people or is it generally accepted as ordinary speech ?
JNO that was the point I was trying to make - "Allah wept" is not a saying in this country so if clarkson said it they would censor him I would imagine, however if we follow this line of thinking to apply all world religions / cultures ideas of what is unacceptable speech and then translate them into a christian version AND THEN ban that as well the BBC would find it difficult to say anything... and i think that is what this complaint was about e.g. you wouldn't say Allah wept so you shouldn't say Jesus wept - but they can in my opinion obviously not be compared like that
flipping heck if clarkson got banned from saying stuff like that he wouldnt be saying much would he?
fred ive not heard many muslims blashpheming unless they are doing it in a different language that i dont understand, but my husband and his mates sometimes say 'To Kwa' it literally means 'you God', which basically translates to 'for Gods sake' i think.... and something else which means 'you are a pain to God'
fred ive not heard many muslims blashpheming unless they are doing it in a different language that i dont understand, but my husband and his mates sometimes say 'To Kwa' it literally means 'you God', which basically translates to 'for Gods sake' i think.... and something else which means 'you are a pain to God'