Female circumcision.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....llegally-Britain.html

With as many as 100,000 women who have undergone this brutal genital mutilation illegally in Britain, why are the police failing to act against this barbaric practice?

/// The Metropolitan Police said since 2008, it had received 166 reports of people who fear they are at risk of FGM but it has failed to bring forward a single perpetrator. ///

/// It is the same for all 43 forces across England and Wales with no convictions for the offence ever taking place.///

[naomi24]

Toes, I expect some do.

Sqad, A very definite No!

[Sqad]

For reasons of tradition and ritual....similar to the Jews attitude to circumcision.

But more importantly to make sure that it is done in sterile, painless conditions by experts.

[naomi24]

Still 'no' Sqad. No one has the right to decide to mutilate someone else for any reason - and nor should they have.

[anotheoldgit]

Sqad

Male circumcision is an entirely different matter to female circumcision.

On Males it is sometime necessarily performed on very young boys for medical reasons, one does not have to be Jewish.

But this female mutilation performed on Muslim females, is just part of their antiquated culture, which involves the surgical removal of external genitalia performed mainly to prevent any enjoyment from sex, and in some cases the total prevention of the sex act, carried out by the stitching of the vaginal opening, having the same purpose as the medieval European chastity belt.

[Sqad]

naomi.......if performed by a surgeon, it would unlikely to be described as "mutilation."

It would be for "no reason" as it would be for ritual and tradition....a good enough reason for many people.

[sandyRoe]

I wonder what percentage of circumcisions of boys are medically necessary?

[Sqad]

naomi.......it should have read "it wouldn't be for no reason"

AOG...I agree totally.

[Gromit]

// No one has the right to decide to mutilate someone else for any reason - and nor should they have. //

But apparently it is OK for Jewish boys to undergo pointless surgery in the name of religious tradition.

[argorstran]

All circumcisions of minors - girls AND boys should be banned .
Talk about human rights!!!! - you take a child and you irreversibly mutilate its sex organs???

[naomi24]

AOG, Jewish and Muslim boys are circumcised as a matter of course - and unless it is carried out as a matter of medical necessity, I disagree with that too.

Sqad, neither ritual nor tradition are good enough reasons to carry out this horrendous practice - and whether performed by a surgeon or not, it is still mutilation.

[naomi24]

Gromit, re: male circumcision, see my post to AOG.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.nhs.uk/Con...-is-it-necessary.aspx

[Sqad]

naomi

\\\\\neither ritual nor tradition are good enough reasons to carry out this horrendous practice\\\\ that is your opinion to which you are entitled, but to the families of these "immigrants" it is a good enough reason.

So...they go to a backstreet mutilator OR in my suggestion a qualified doctor.

[naomi24]

AOG, what point are you trying to make with that link?

[naomi24]

No Sqad. Better that they start living in the 21st century.

[Sqad]

naomi....so whilst they are grasping for the benefits of the 21st century, the pain, complications and mutilation of female genitalia continues.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

There is no compassion between the two.

Even if male circumcision is carried out for religious reasons, it has no adverse effect on the recipient, whereas female circumcision is genitalia mutilation and disfigurement, which will carry a damning and lasting emotional effect on the recipient for the rest of her life.

[hc4361]

Some men claim that being circumcised enhances their sex life.
This can never be said for female circumcision.

[naomi24]

Sqad, Are you seriously suggesting that if a mother - or more likely a father - brought a young daughter to you and asked you to carry out that operation, you'd do it? And what about the next, and the next, and the next? The practice doesn't need condoning - it needs stamping out.