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78 year old sex change.
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but surely at 78, he/she is mature enough to accept that this is a waste of NHS time and money when we are regularly hearing of people being denied treatment because of the expense.
And don't think I'm unaware of the problem - there is a similar case in my extended family although the same age question doesn't exist.
And don't think I'm unaware of the problem - there is a similar case in my extended family although the same age question doesn't exist.
sp......."no I don't get your drift."
The NHS is strapped for cash, particularly now,and the hemorrhagic of funds is out of control........so money for a sex change 80 year old (not 75) needs some explaining.
Money doesn't grow on trees...........the tax payer..... you and me have to stump it up.
Age will always play a part both in financial considerations and in medical evaluation...............and so it should.
The NHS is strapped for cash, particularly now,and the hemorrhagic of funds is out of control........so money for a sex change 80 year old (not 75) needs some explaining.
Money doesn't grow on trees...........the tax payer..... you and me have to stump it up.
Age will always play a part both in financial considerations and in medical evaluation...............and so it should.
IMHO sex changes should not be funded by the NHS, neither should 'boob' jobs or any other types of cosmetic surgery. The NHS should be for health only, and dont go quoting the 'mental' issues that just doe not wash and in particular in this case if you have managed 75 years.
Cash in SP, yes maybe, but of course you dont actually know a) if he/she paid into the systems and you dont know how much he/she has been 'paid out' do you?
Cash in SP, yes maybe, but of course you dont actually know a) if he/she paid into the systems and you dont know how much he/she has been 'paid out' do you?
youngmafbog/Sqad
Yep - I understand what you're saying, but we simply don't know enough about the medical history of this case to make an informed decision, whereas the doctors, psychologists and social workers on the case do.
Yes, we must get best value out of the NHS, which is why we should trust medical professionals in their assessment of patient needs.
Yep - I understand what you're saying, but we simply don't know enough about the medical history of this case to make an informed decision, whereas the doctors, psychologists and social workers on the case do.
Yes, we must get best value out of the NHS, which is why we should trust medical professionals in their assessment of patient needs.
I'm very cynical about all this 'in the wrong body' cobblers at the best of times - cutting a dogs nuts off doesn't make it a bitch, it makes it a dog with no nuts - and therefore I can't help feeling what a waste of money this is simply to satisfy an octogenarians whim considering we often hear of cancer patients being refused certain drugs because they are too expensive.
But even if I weren't a sceptic, I would still consider this to be a ridiculous waste of money.
But even if I weren't a sceptic, I would still consider this to be a ridiculous waste of money.
the thing about being 'in the wrongbody' is that 'inside' they are the opposite sex - so at 80 whats the point of taking hormones, havingsurgey etc - if inside you stay the same?
lets face it its not going to be for sex or to find a partner, or to look good is it?
as much as i sympathise with people who genuinely feel this way and it affects their happiness - but surely thats their problem?... same as me having no money, problems with my car, my house, my looks etc etc - all those affect my mental health but i dont expect others to fund me to make me feel better.
i am very much a non conformist, live and let live kind of person and i love the variety in people - in fact 'weirder' the better... but not at the expense of others... i am inclined to believe that for many of these situations its somewhat self indulgent and attention seeking... not all, but some...and even thats fine "whatver gets you through the night" ... but as i say not when it deprives others ...' andi think this one is one of them...
lets face it its not going to be for sex or to find a partner, or to look good is it?
as much as i sympathise with people who genuinely feel this way and it affects their happiness - but surely thats their problem?... same as me having no money, problems with my car, my house, my looks etc etc - all those affect my mental health but i dont expect others to fund me to make me feel better.
i am very much a non conformist, live and let live kind of person and i love the variety in people - in fact 'weirder' the better... but not at the expense of others... i am inclined to believe that for many of these situations its somewhat self indulgent and attention seeking... not all, but some...and even thats fine "whatver gets you through the night" ... but as i say not when it deprives others ...' andi think this one is one of them...
I do think its a bad use of money in this instance, at 78 I think he has missed the boat in the sense of making use of his new gender, however much he wanted it why wait until he is elderly to achieve his dream? I also think that with NHS money being so tight funding should be saved for life saving procedures rather than gender reassignment and unnecessary procedures.
I note a number of people referring to 'she' she is not a she yet, that's what he wants the op to achieve.
No way should this 'pandering to so called popular opinion' be funded by the NHS when seriously ill patients are being denied treatment on cost grounds.
This man has had a lifetime to fund his sex change, he says he does not want a sex-life, he lives as awoman, he looks like a woman, so why change anything else, exept of course for that great ego-booster Publicity.
Funded by someone else of course.
No way should this 'pandering to so called popular opinion' be funded by the NHS when seriously ill patients are being denied treatment on cost grounds.
This man has had a lifetime to fund his sex change, he says he does not want a sex-life, he lives as awoman, he looks like a woman, so why change anything else, exept of course for that great ego-booster Publicity.
Funded by someone else of course.
// he lives as a woman, he looks like a woman //
..but he breaks just like a little girl. (Bob Dylan)
sp1814 // - I understand what you're saying, but we simply don't know enough about the medical history of this case to make an informed decision, whereas the doctors, psychologists and social workers on the case do. //
True - he may have been having years of therapy and have more of it to come, at a way higher cost than this operation, so it's actually a money saver.
..but he breaks just like a little girl. (Bob Dylan)
sp1814 // - I understand what you're saying, but we simply don't know enough about the medical history of this case to make an informed decision, whereas the doctors, psychologists and social workers on the case do. //
True - he may have been having years of therapy and have more of it to come, at a way higher cost than this operation, so it's actually a money saver.
but regardless of how much counselling he has had, sometimes people cannot be 'fixed' sometimes people just have to put up with things ... we all have to put up with things we hate - sometimes heartbreaking soul destroying and horrible things ... but thats life - we accept that perhaps without the cash we cannot change it - so we learn tolive with it.
he is not 'ill' ...and has had alifetime to 'get used to it' - or saved up
it is not a human right to have a free op like this, any more than me not having a 56" widescreen tv is against my human rights
you cant always get what you want...
he is not 'ill' ...and has had alifetime to 'get used to it' - or saved up
it is not a human right to have a free op like this, any more than me not having a 56" widescreen tv is against my human rights
you cant always get what you want...
"I note a number of people referring to 'she' she is not a she yet, that's what he wants the op to achieve".
I'd go further - he is not a she, and he can never be a she even if the operation went ahead. He is a man and can only ever be a man, and referring to him as a her or he as a she is factually wrong and a bit odd.
I'd go further - he is not a she, and he can never be a she even if the operation went ahead. He is a man and can only ever be a man, and referring to him as a her or he as a she is factually wrong and a bit odd.
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