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Nottin Hill Carnival
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Why is it that this event seems to attract some of the low-life of society, or is it just because of the Police's extra vigilance during this weekend, that scoops up these characters?
/// Those caught had been wanted in connection for a range of offences including sex crimes, drugs and theft. A convicted violent serial sex offender, wanted in connection with another serious sexual assault, as arrested as well as a known gang member in connection with a recent burglary. ///
Pretty successful eh, perhaps they should carry on with these kind of 'stop and searches'?
Why is it that this event seems to attract some of the low-life of society, or is it just because of the Police's extra vigilance during this weekend, that scoops up these characters?
/// Those caught had been wanted in connection for a range of offences including sex crimes, drugs and theft. A convicted violent serial sex offender, wanted in connection with another serious sexual assault, as arrested as well as a known gang member in connection with a recent burglary. ///
Pretty successful eh, perhaps they should carry on with these kind of 'stop and searches'?
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AOG
It's an intelligence-led operation, isn't it? The police are using targeted methods to detained those wanted in connection with criminal activities, in the same way that they do at football matches (violent disorder) and Glastonbury (drugs).
At Glastonbury in particular, the police randomly stop cars driving into the area to perform searches for drugs...same used to happen in the 90s when police used to break up raves.
Your last statement however, confuses me. I understand that the police DO use powers of 'stop and search'. I assume this because travelling on the London underground, I've regularly seen people stopped and searched.
Just to double-check that, I went to the Met website, and it seems to back up what I thought:
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Did you think that the police DON'T use these powers, or we're thinking of winding them down?
It's an intelligence-led operation, isn't it? The police are using targeted methods to detained those wanted in connection with criminal activities, in the same way that they do at football matches (violent disorder) and Glastonbury (drugs).
At Glastonbury in particular, the police randomly stop cars driving into the area to perform searches for drugs...same used to happen in the 90s when police used to break up raves.
Your last statement however, confuses me. I understand that the police DO use powers of 'stop and search'. I assume this because travelling on the London underground, I've regularly seen people stopped and searched.
Just to double-check that, I went to the Met website, and it seems to back up what I thought:
http://
Did you think that the police DON'T use these powers, or we're thinking of winding them down?
I don't know if any of you listen to LBC Radio, but this morning they had a phone-in regarding the Carnival, and the Presenter who is far from a 'racist' happened to have some views on the event that some black callers seemed to heatedly disagree with.
Just because the Presenter happened to say that he had no wish to attend the Carnival, a West Indian women with an obvious attitude called him a racist, after he said he did not like being in crowds, she said it was because he did not want to 'rub shoulders' with black people, and further went on to say that she had seen white people sniff cocaine from off their mobile phones, although to my knowledge drugs had not even been discussed.
Why is it that one cannot disagree with the Carnival without some going off on one?
Just because the Presenter happened to say that he had no wish to attend the Carnival, a West Indian women with an obvious attitude called him a racist, after he said he did not like being in crowds, she said it was because he did not want to 'rub shoulders' with black people, and further went on to say that she had seen white people sniff cocaine from off their mobile phones, although to my knowledge drugs had not even been discussed.
Why is it that one cannot disagree with the Carnival without some going off on one?
AOG
Not clashing per se...just throwing out some ideas.
Your post from 12:57 is on a slightly different topic, but I would suggest that nearly every topic under the sun (wind farms, date rape, MPs salaries, One Direction's new album, tanning salons) will have detractors/supporters who will use lowest common denominator arguments to support or denounce a position.
Not clashing per se...just throwing out some ideas.
Your post from 12:57 is on a slightly different topic, but I would suggest that nearly every topic under the sun (wind farms, date rape, MPs salaries, One Direction's new album, tanning salons) will have detractors/supporters who will use lowest common denominator arguments to support or denounce a position.
The police do this all the time, aog. Cambridge is hardly a hotbed of crime, but I've seen walk- through scanners at the only exit from Cambridge railway station , for the purpose of detecting people carrying knives . It was a targeted operation.If the police were lucky they'd have seen some people who were wanted for other offences. That would be quite incidental to the operation, but a bonus.
Notting Hill Carnival attracts crowds and crowds attract the 'low life of society'. Nothing new there. Crowds at public hangings used to attract pickpockets. So do the crowds in Oxford Street now. But the police haven't got the resources in manpower to carry out their duties in the way they do before, or at, the Carnival, or did at Cambridge station, everywhere and every day.
Do you think that the Carnival is unique in attracting low life, or that it does so on a uniquely large scale? If so, what causes you to think so?
Notting Hill Carnival attracts crowds and crowds attract the 'low life of society'. Nothing new there. Crowds at public hangings used to attract pickpockets. So do the crowds in Oxford Street now. But the police haven't got the resources in manpower to carry out their duties in the way they do before, or at, the Carnival, or did at Cambridge station, everywhere and every day.
Do you think that the Carnival is unique in attracting low life, or that it does so on a uniquely large scale? If so, what causes you to think so?
THEMOTLEY1
/// Anyone setting themselves up as the Spelling Police should take a look at their thread title first. ///
No one is setting themselves up as the 'Spelling Police' as you have aggressively put.
I was simply querying sp's use of the word we're in a humorous way, meaning that I didn't know that he was in the police.
And yes big deal I did inadvertently miss off the letter 'G' off the end of 'Nottin'.
/// Anyone setting themselves up as the Spelling Police should take a look at their thread title first. ///
No one is setting themselves up as the 'Spelling Police' as you have aggressively put.
I was simply querying sp's use of the word we're in a humorous way, meaning that I didn't know that he was in the police.
And yes big deal I did inadvertently miss off the letter 'G' off the end of 'Nottin'.
FredPuli43
/// Do you think that the Carnival is unique in attracting low life, or that it does so on a uniquely large scale? If so, what causes you to think so? ///
I am only going on it's past record, you can check if you don't believe me.
Why else does it command such a high police presence each year, if any other event were to cause so much trouble it would either be banned or re organised in some way, say confined to an enclosed area such as one of the parks.
People living in some of these streets have to board up their houses and are confined to them during the whole weekend, most strange that the recent Olympics did not cause so much trouble.
/// Do you think that the Carnival is unique in attracting low life, or that it does so on a uniquely large scale? If so, what causes you to think so? ///
I am only going on it's past record, you can check if you don't believe me.
Why else does it command such a high police presence each year, if any other event were to cause so much trouble it would either be banned or re organised in some way, say confined to an enclosed area such as one of the parks.
People living in some of these streets have to board up their houses and are confined to them during the whole weekend, most strange that the recent Olympics did not cause so much trouble.
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