Channel 4 Islam documentry cancelled.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....enter-threatened.html

I wonder if the police will now arrest the 'Twits' who made these threats on Twitter, just as they have arrested persons in the past for making racist remarks on the site?

[Zeuhl]

I saw this when it was broadcast a few weeks ago.

I thought it rather interesting but I gather Tom Holland's credentials as a 'historian' are suspect and his theories criticised for being a rehash of earlier discredited ideas.

Regardless of that, intolerance of other people's ideas and threats of violence are unacceptable and hopefully the security services will be marking the cards of the people responsible.

[Duncer]

As they should in all cases of this kind, irrespective of the perpetrators backgrounds/affiliations. That is equality.

[emmie]

shame because whilst i did watch some of the first programme and found it moderately interesting, i can't see why anyone would or should pull the programme. If those people who have threatened him are caught what will be the reason for their arrest or indeed punishment, that is if they are.

[jno]

if they can trace them, yes, they will. Why do you suppose there's any doubt?

[emmie]

what i find disturbing is that the programme has been pulled, perhaps you can view it online, but that means the threats have done their work. If there were 1,000 complaints, how on earth would you find them.

[Zeuhl]

em

i think there is only one programme

There's a repeat scheduled for thursday.

It is a 'private screening' at C4 HQ that has been cancelled.

[emmie]

as i said i did watch some of the programme, but i didn't find it that engaging.

[Zeuhl]

<as i said i did watch some of the programme>

fair enough em

I was picking up on your implication there was more than one programme :-)

<i did watch some of the first programme>

[Zeuhl]

<If there were 1,000 complaints, how on earth would you find them. >

You wouldn't.

There's nothing wrong with complaining.

But evidently there were also <a torrent of abusive messages on Twitter.>

Not sure how many 'a torrent' is ...

If any are potentially criminal the police can access twitter account details

[emmie]

don't you find this disturbing, because i do, a scholar, at least let's call him that, makes a programme or a series of programmes on a subject matter, but because certain sections of society, be it here or abroad don't care for it,
it's not shown, and threats are made against that person. If they do discover who these threats originated from, what kind of sentence would they get if it actually went to court. This is shades of Salman Rushdie, how long did he have a fatwa against him..

[emmie]

for some reason i thought it was a series of programmes on Islam.

[Zeuhl]

<because of threats ... it's not shown>

it was em, and it's being repeated this week.

it was a private screening for an invited audience at C4 HQ that has been cancelled.

But any attempt at censorship by threats of violence is deplorable I agree.

[emmie]

that is what i meant, deplorable, censorship by any other name. Sorry to add this but had anyone make a documentary about any other religion there would be no fuss, at least any ones i have watched on Christianity, why would you.

[Nibble]

Having watched the original program, I note that the authorities at C4 have already caved in to the "hairy-beardies", who I suspect haven't even seen the program itself. Having said that, I found the program raised a few questions, which none of the respondants wished even to discuss with the scholar, and as usual stuck their heads in the sands of "because it's written in the book". Hardly, a way of furthering the spread of an all-encompasing world religion.

[emmie]

you would think they would welcome open discussion on the religion, the part i watched wasn't disrespectful in any way.

[Nibble]

As the most vociferous of the loud shouting adherents have barely even read their own book, let alone read any other religious Holy Books, then the issuing of fatwas, as defined below



a non-binding judgment on a point of Islamic law given by a recognized religious authority

will never build a binding, and all encompasing agreement as to the historical veracity of their books. Which is why in this age of instant access to media, the unthinking and ill-informed will spew their revisionist bile against the thinking world, with the inevitable concern being caused to the general public.