For all you Daily Mail 'lovers'.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independen...l-online-8125074.html

Does the writer of this Independent article actually know the true meaning of the word Pornography?

She accuses the Daily Mail of 'filling its site with images of scantily-clad women'.

Wow that is absolutely disgusting, perhaps those pages of 'scantily clad women' in women's clothing catalogues should be classed as porn also?

But then she attaches the word 'Porn' to almost every subject that a newspaper cares to report on, hence the piece below..

/// The Mail Online thrives on pornography. It is built upon pornography. Every single one of its articles is laden with it, whether it be of the sexual variety or of types which are less apparent but equally, if not more, problematic. Moral outrage porn, disaster porn, celebrity-papping porn, sentimental-concern porn, judgement-of-others porn, health-and-safety-gone-mad porn, it’s-just-common-sense porn. Hate porn, essentially; reams and reams and pages and pages of the stuff. And it’s this that makes its claim to be protecting our children’s innocence sit so sourly in the mouth. There are a lot of awful things out there in society and on the internet that we might not want our kids to be exposed to, and a lot of them are much more damaging than the occasional glimpse of penis. ///

Incidentally isn't the rather sexy way she is looking in her headline photograph, rather 'pornographic?

[Zeuhl]

<the true meaning of the word Pornography?>

Well according to the dictionaries there are several;

1: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement

2: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

3: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <e.g.the pornography of violence>

The Daily Mail certainly tries to achieve #3 on a regular basis.

[anotheoldgit]

Zeuhl

/// 3: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <e.g.the pornography of violence> ///

/// The Daily Mail certainly tries to achieve #3 on a regular
basis.///

That is only because VIOLENCE is now a daily occurrence, or are you suggesting that it should not be reported on?

[Duncer]

I think Zeuhl refers to how it is reported on rather than the actual reporting of it.

[Zeuhl]

Old Git

If you re-read you may notice that <e.g.the pornography of violence> is part of the dictionary definition of pornography not part of my comment on The Mail.

[Zeuhl]

Though Duncer is quite correct

That charge could well be levelled at The Mail's style of reporting on violent crime as part of their overall 'model' of Britain/The World today

[anotheoldgit]

Zeuhl

/// If you re-read you may notice that <e.g.the pornography of violence> is part of the dictionary definition of pornography not part of my comment on The Mail. ///

And I was commenting on this /// The Daily Mail certainly tries to achieve #3 on a regular basis.///

So wasn't that part of your comment on the Mail, since you yourself pointed to it?

[hc4361]

It's not just porn the Mail is obsessed with.

Nearly every news article includes the value of the houses of the victims, the perpetrators and everyone else.

[Bazile]

//Incidentally isn't the rather sexy way she is looking in her headline photograph, rather 'pornographic?//

That's not a look of sexiness - that's a shyness look

[Zeuhl]

<So wasn't that part of your comment on the Mail, since you yourself pointed to it? >

No.

That example was chosen by Merriam-Webster as an example of how the word pornography could be used in <the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction>

they chose <violence> I pasted the whole dictionary entry.

I suppose they could have cited 'disaster porn', 'celebrity porn' or 'property porn' for that matter.

I'm not sure how they feature in the agenda that The Mail uses to brief their contributors. Though violence does interestingly.

[anotheoldgit]

Bazile

/// That's not a look of sexiness - that's a shyness look ///

Oh! 'shyness' is it? I didn't know that there was such a thing these days, then perhaps it is because she is a such a shy shrinking violet, that she tends to consider most things 'pornographic'?

[Duncer]

Faux coyness in an attempt to be sexy perhaps?

If so, it failed.

[Zeuhl]

<she tends to consider most things 'pornographic'?>

Isn't that a characteristic of the Puritan or the religious Fundamentalist?

[emmie]

no wonder i didn't have a clue what she was on about, all over the website, i rarely if ever look at the paper on line, only perhaps as someone's link.
scantily clad ladies, has she looked at The Sun newspaper or the Sunday sport, not sure if that is still around though.

[FredPuli43]

The Mail online is ,perhaps, what she's thinking of. The right hand side of it is nothing but celebrity wardrobe malfunctions, women showing their knickers, general tittle tattle, some bitchiness; celeb porn, if you will.

The regular Mail is excellent if you like non-news dressed up, or the word 'outrage' for when two people have complained about something trivial, or general distortion of news in a headline and opening sentence which isn't born out by the text (or any research). Not sure that's any kind of 'porn', unless it's hate porn sometimes. It's just playing to the prejudices of its readers, who like to have their ignorance justified as truth (don't we all?) The Times, the New York Times, Le Monde and other serious papers do none of this, but they are not in the entertainment business, and it shows; they don't sell as well as the Mail!

[emmie]

Fred, do you actually read the Mail, and not online..

[FredPuli43]

em10, I used to have the Mail delivered (among other papers). Stopped it about a year ago. It was just too predictable to bother with; its constant appeal to prejudices, and its distortions, ceased to be amusing. Still glance at it online, to see what stories it is running, sometimes. Our daughter likes the online 'sidebar of shame' though; it seems to appeal to women more than men; and the regular Mail is good on women's interests too. Femail is the best thing in the paper.