ChatterBank13 mins ago
How could they do this
Catholic or no they should have helped this poor woman
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ ...hern -irelan d-20321 741
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You'll find Em that I will only defend Ireland when it's worth defending and that as my home country I recognise full well our failings in many departments. It makes me sick to my stomach that we are still acting in such a medieval way towards women in need of help, that doesn't lessen my love of the country just makes me a realist about some of the cruel and peculiar...
19:57 Wed 14th Nov 2012
Abortion in ireland is legal if the life of the mother is in danger
I don't believe there's any suggestion that they denied her an abortion knowing that her life was in danger.
I suspect that if there was evidence of that people would be in a lot of trouble and probably would be facing criminal charges
I don't believe there's any suggestion that they denied her an abortion knowing that her life was in danger.
I suspect that if there was evidence of that people would be in a lot of trouble and probably would be facing criminal charges
I kind of take that back - it's a bit murkey
There is constitutional provision for it but no specific law
There is criticism that in practice it is difficult even in these situations - however the Irish Government say:
//The Government is satisfied that any medical treatment necessary to safeguard a woman’s life during pregnancy is available in Ireland. It has no plans to bring forward further constitutional or legislative proposals in relation to abortion.//
It will be interesting to see whether this case prompts any further action
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There is constitutional provision for it but no specific law
There is criticism that in practice it is difficult even in these situations - however the Irish Government say:
//The Government is satisfied that any medical treatment necessary to safeguard a woman’s life during pregnancy is available in Ireland. It has no plans to bring forward further constitutional or legislative proposals in relation to abortion.//
It will be interesting to see whether this case prompts any further action
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There's a fuller story here:
http:// www.iri shtimes ...14/1 2243265 75203.h tml
If this is true and the consultant said "While there's a foetal heartbeat we can't do anything" and their actions substantiate that, it sounds as if the Irish Government's statement that I quoted above needs reconsideration.
Some clarification of if from them I think is the very least that is needed here
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If this is true and the consultant said "While there's a foetal heartbeat we can't do anything" and their actions substantiate that, it sounds as if the Irish Government's statement that I quoted above needs reconsideration.
Some clarification of if from them I think is the very least that is needed here
What would happen in Britain in such a situation? i.e. someone asked to be induced. Obviously no one would refuse on the grounds of it being a "Catholic country" (which seems a strange way of putting it - the fact is that is the law, even if it should not be).
Someone would presumably have made a decision based on the assessed health of the woman and maybe also the age of the foetus. Perhaps that also happened in this case and things have been coloured by the rather outrageous initial comment about a "Catholic country". Hopefully an inquiry will find that out.
Thanks heavens tho' for the EHCR which will hopefully soon force the Irish Government to rule on this issue and change the law.
Someone would presumably have made a decision based on the assessed health of the woman and maybe also the age of the foetus. Perhaps that also happened in this case and things have been coloured by the rather outrageous initial comment about a "Catholic country". Hopefully an inquiry will find that out.
Thanks heavens tho' for the EHCR which will hopefully soon force the Irish Government to rule on this issue and change the law.
Some comments in R/S on this subject too. Obviously further information is required, but on the face of it, a woman lost her life because of a refusal to induce in a life- threatening situation for the mother, either because of the religious convictions of those treating her, or out of fear that they might be breaking the law - a lack of clarity or bureaucratic footdragging.
Whatever the reasons, it is a tragic case.
Whatever the reasons, it is a tragic case.
I would have thought it highly unlikely that a doctor said "I won't do this because I'm a Catholic/the country's Catholic."
Doctors do however have to obey the law and this is probably what happened here. It may be that their understanding of the law is different from the government's. Somebody needs to clear that up quickly.
Doctors do however have to obey the law and this is probably what happened here. It may be that their understanding of the law is different from the government's. Somebody needs to clear that up quickly.