Israel bombards Gaza

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....mminent-invasion.html

Why aren't our leaders prepared to condemn Israel, for these continuous attacks?

Retaliation for rocket attacks from Gaza, and the right to self defence is one thing, but the widespread slaughter that Israel is inflicting on innocent civilians is not the answer surely.

/// President Barack Obama spoke separately to Israeli and Egyptian leaders yesterday as the violence in Gaza intensified. In a conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he reiterated US support for Israel’s right to self-defence. ///

/// Tonight, David Cameron urged Israel to 'do everything possible' to end the crisis. In a phone call with Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu, he expressed sympathy for the continued 'unacceptable' rocket attacks. ///

[Gromit]

Look up Conservative Friends of Israel and how many MPs have recieved money from Israel. Likewise the Israeli lobby in the US.

The US will not allow an attack on Iran (just yet) so this is the next best thing just before an election in Israel.

And I am sure Israel will try to draw Iran into the conflict by saying Palestinian rockets are coming from there.

[Gromit]

http://en.wikipedia.o...ive_Friends_of_Israel

[sandyRoe]

It's just 4 years since the last Israeli onslaught against the people of Gaza. Then they killed more than 1400.
As long as the USA backs the Zionists this mass butchery will continue.

[Gromit]

MPs who are members of Friends of Israel organisations:


James Arbuthnot MP
Graham Brady MP
Alistair Burt MP
James Clappison MP
Iain Duncan-Smith MP
Liam Fox MP
Mike Freer MP
William Hague MP
Robert Halfon MP
Richard Harrington MP
Lord Stanley Kalms
Malcolm Rifkind MP
Sir Stuart Bell MP
Luciana Berger MP
Tony Blair former MP
Lord Janner Former MP
David Blunkett MP
Gordon Brown MP and former PM
Chris Bryant MP
Stephen Byers former MP
Wayne David MP
Andrew Dismore
Louise Ellman MP
Derek Foster MP
Mike Gapes MP
Anthony Greenwood MP
Andrew Gwynne MP
Fabian Hamilton MP
Joan Humble MP
Baroness Hayman
Barbara Keeley MP
Jane Kennedy MP
Ivan MP
Denis mcShane MP
Alun Michael MP, former Leader of the Welsh Labour Party[11]
Andrew Miller MP
Jim Murphy MP
Nick Palmer MP
Terry Rooney MP
Siôn Simon MP
Dari Taylor MP
Gary Titley MP
John Woodcock MP
Iain Wright MP
Alan Beith MP

[Brenden]

And as long as the arab world including Egypt and Iran support the Palestinians sandy.

[McMouse]

Both Hezbollah and Iran maintain the view that the state of Israel should not exist. If Hezbollah continue to launch indiscriminate rockets in the direction of Israel targeted at "where ever they land", they should not be surprised in they get return fire.

[FredPuli43]

What is there to condemn, aog ? If your town was being bombarded by rockets, what you expect your government to do? And what would you expect world leaders to say about the response of your government? Civilans will always end up suffering, and that's on both sides,but that doesn't mean that one side should do nothing.

[anotheoldgit]

FredPuli43

What is there to condemn, aog ?

/// As reported by the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, since 29 September 2000 a total of 7,454 Palestinian and Israeli individuals were killed due to the conflict. ///

/// 1,317 of the 6,371 Palestinians were minors, and at least 2,996 did not participate in fighting at time of death. ///

/// Palestinians killed 1,083 Israelis, including 741 civilians. 124 of those killed were minors ///

[brionon]

Yeah -like England would suffer constant rocket attacks without retaliating.

[Brenden]

Can we have a list of those who support the Palestinians and Hamas gromit.

[bazwillrun]

"Can we have a list of those who support the Palestinians and Hamas gromit. "

to start you off , you can put the BBC at the top of the list

[sandyRoe]

Why don't the Israelis take a lesson from history and go for a final solution, gas all the Palestinians?

[Brenden]

Is that your solution sandy - what an awful thing to say when history teaches us what the Jews, Gypsies and Romanies suffered under the Nazi's. You are overlooking the fact that Israel is suffering a 600rocket attack a day - do you suggest they say nothing and do nothing to protect themselves.

[FredPuli43]

Yes, aog, that's what happens when you start killing innocent people in one country (how many Israelis killed were in the armed forces?). Your own country suffers when that country fires back. It happened to Germany and it happens to Gaza. The answer for Gaza's militants to stop. It's hardly a case for condemning Israel in particular. or even at all, at present.

[DTCwordfan]

Do I detect the slightest hint of being sardonic in the 14.41 thread of sandy's. If not, then it ought to be removed.

This is a really serious situation as, elections withstanding, given the changes in M-East politics, an invasion by Israel could send the whole lot up, Egypt under its more purist Muslim leadership going into support, then Lebanon and Syria spilling over, Turkey to the north and Iran to the East.......brrrrrrrr, Israel then tempted to neutralise the Iranian nuclear threat. Or may be that is their end game - to incite the Iranians to make the mistake?

[Brenden]

It is so serious DT as you said, the implications of what could happen are horrendous, it could start a WW3 - god forbid that day ever comes.

[Snafu03]

nevermind. I'm sure there will be yet another film or docu on TV soon depicting harrowing scenes of the holocaust.

Sympathy has been Israels greatest weapon since 1948.

[Brenden]

And they certainly have all of mine snafu.

[naomi24]

The Palestinians have been treated abominably, and there is no solution. What’s done is done. All the world could ever hope for is some sort of compromise - but clearly, firing rockets into Israel isn’t going to lead to that. The middle east is a ticking time bomb.

[bazwillrun]

This current escalation is down to two things and two things only, it has nothing to do with Israeli elections and if you think it does then you can blame hamas, for it is they who a couple of weeks ago on the back of syria sending shells into israel, decided to jump on the bandwagon and start yet again lobbing rockets into israel.

israel last week agreed to a truce but hamas thought once it was in place , it would be a jolly good wheeze to fire missiles Jerusalem way.