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Dolls Of Film Characters, Offensive?

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anotheoldgit | 12:29 Sat 19th Jan 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264652/Toy-makers-cease-production-Django-Unchained-action-figures-black-community-leaders-criticize-trivializing-slavery.html

Perhaps whites should also be offended, seeing that the white character dolls are offensive to present day white people?

/// Najee Ali, director of the Los Angeles civil rights group Project Islamic Hope, said he and other figures in the black community were 'outraged' to hear of the action figures and said they were 'a slap in the face of our ancestors'. ///



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not exactly sure the point of the post, insofar that one would likely find these dolls offensive, collectibles, perhaps, i certainly wouldn't, as to some making points about dolls of a different type, sorry not sure i get that either.
AOG

I think the reason why white slave traders are historically treated with so much contempt is because they changed the way that indentured workers from Africa were treated. The African traders assumed that the indenture process would be the same in the New World.

They could not have known the evil of the traders.

Incidentally, the 'slavery' you refer to in Africa was nothing like what happened in the plantations of the US and Carribean. For one, slaves had the opportunity to work out their indenture.

Also, they didn't have slave owners raping women and splitting up families.

Only providing these points because your knowledge of the subject seems a little...sparse.
I haven't seen the film, but I'm assuming the guy is a bit of a hero, so I don't see the problem.
I would guess that the dolls are collectible action figures and not toys for the kiddies.



Dolls for fully grown fools then?

I just can't see the point of these dolls whatsoever. Why would anyone waste money on this crap?
sp, as perhaps yours does on north african slave traders, who captured mostly white settlers across much of Europe, more than a million or so they say, but of course it doesn't get spoken about quite so much does it.
they weren't so lucky either, most never made it home, many were simply worked to death, sold on to other slave traders and kept in captivity until they too died. It was admittedly centuries ago, and over a long period of time, however barbarity doesn't stop at the white man.
Sp. All this angst and yet you seem to advocate slavery for your veggie pickers.
Incidentally they certainly had cannibalism in Africa & routinely slaughtered hundreds of women & children in ritual celebrations.
This idea of the genial African slave trader is frankly laughable.
MT, exactly why would anyone waste their money on such unholy crap
thetaliesin

Thanks.

I've already answered your point about veggie pickers (have a look at one earlier this year).

Characterising Africans as cannibals.

Well...what can one say. Of course you're correct. Millions of visitors evah year end up as a constituent part of Big Mac in Jo'burg every year.

It's a national scandal.
"This idea of the genial African slave trader is frankly laughable."

which is exactly what i was doing.....but as sp thinks hes the boards expert on every subject he must be correct musnt he, I suppose its just a momentary blip that hes decided not to mention how tribes used to go on raiding day outs to destroy villages and other tribes to sell those that where worth something and kill the rest that they considered of no value to the arab and other black slave traders.
To answer all the 'who would buy them?' questions - If I liked the movie, I would buy them. (I'm actually going to see it in about 20 minutes).

When I was a teenager, I had a large number of figurines and dolls on my shelves from a collection called 'Movie Maniacs' - they were little (about 8"-12") figures of such movie villains as Ghostface, Michael Myers, Jason Voorhees (my cousin has a big 18-incher of him), Freddie Krueger, etc. You buy these things because you're a fan of the movie and you like the merchandise.

Now, obviously, the maniacs that I used to own are fictional and slavery is not. But the dolls in question are homages to the movie, which happens to be one that's about slavery. People buy them for the same reason they buy figurines of Leatherface - because they like the movie and they like dolls. The idea that the toys in question 'trivialise' slavery is ludicrous in the extreme.
thetaliesin

I should warn you about something...whilst you are able to put forward a well constructed argument (even if I disagree with I), there are certain, lets say 'creepy' members of AB, who have might but in every now and against with their GCE-level comprehension skills.

Seriously - avoid all contact. These people are freaking creepy as hell.
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sp1814

You'll be telling us next that there were no Head-hunters in Borneo.
Where are you going with this AOG?

Seriously - summarise what you mean.
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sp1814

/// I should warn you about something...whilst you are able to put forward a well constructed argument (even if I disagree with I), there are certain, lets say 'creepy' members of AB, who have might but in every now and against with their GCE-level comprehension skills. ///

Nice try in trying to foster one of your critics onto your side, being that the number of you supporters are dwindling on this subject.

/// Seriously - avoid all contact. These people are freaking creepy as hell. ///

'creepy' members of AB, eh? If all is lost, and one is losing the argument, why not resort to insulting comments?

Don't be shy publish their names so we know who you are talking about.
Would you mind running that past me again,Sp. I'm afraid I didn't understand it.
what are you protesting about, aog? That's he's insulting someone or that he's not?
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Seeing a my last post will inevitably be removed, let me explain.

I don't like bazwillrun and as I have already said, my opinion of him couldn't be lower.

I respectfully suggested last year that it would be best for us if we simply ignored each other's posts and didn't refer to each other.

I thought that would work, because there are plenty of other people whose views I disagree with with whom I can debate on AB.

However, since then, he has continued to post about me, and rather than debate the matter at hand, has instead used the opportunity to take personal digs.

This doesn't really bother me as such...it's just...creepy.
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Read it sp, makes it so much easier and less offensive, to those you are not aiming at, if one names names.
Personally I don't see a problem with it. I can't see how it trivialises slavery.
They're replicas of specific characters in a film, not just random slavery dolls.

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