Spiralling Child Nursery Costs

[dave50]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288839/Sending-child-nursery-expensive-private-school-cost-time-place-doubles-decade.html

This has been self perpetuating for years. Mothers have been encouraged to go out to work, therefore two wage earners equals ability to secure a bigger mortgage leading to rocketing house prices and so eventually it becomes necessary for both parents to work to afford a mortgage and no longer an option and so it goes on.
If we had stuck to the tradition of one wage earner and one stay at home parent, house prices would not have shot up and things would not have come to this.

[emmie]

that is not something that seems to be happening though, whilst some see that having two children is enough, after all you have to feed, clothe them, and everything else in between, but more of the them is just higher costs, how can anyone sustain a family of 10 say.. if both parents work..

[honeydip]

The only way you can sustain a familly of 10 if you are unemployed. It is as simple as that.

[anotheoldgit]

jd_1984

/// old git - I would imagine that bedknobs, like us, cherish the time ywe do get with our kids during the evening, at weekends and any holidays that we can spend together. ///

"Short time in the evenings, weekends, and any holidays", seem very little time in which to correctly bring up a child.

/// Parents have to provide in whatever way they can so the family have what they need and have stability in the future. ///

And you really think a child brought up in what one could call an institution, provides them with stability in the future?

/// Bedknobs may well be annoyed by your comments. ///

Before you put yourself up as a mediator between Bednobs and myself, please note my comments were not directed against Bednobs but against the example she used.

And in future please do not address me as 'old git' either use my full username or the abbreviation AOG, because your miss-usage also ANNOYS me.

[bednobs]

no need to be a mediator - i don't really mind who thinks what about phoebe being in nursery. In the nicest possible way, it's not really ANYONE elses business how my family works, or how often/long she is in there. and i only brought up the nursery situation in order to point out that in reality it's fairly cheap in my mind. (or perhaps "cost effective" would be a better way of putting it)
In my mind, she's much safer there. My disabilities mean that it's quite tricky for me to do some of the things that she needs doing. For example i can't play with her on the floor, and consequently she's a bit behind on things like sitting up. As she's getting bigger i'm finding it more and more tricky to pick her up safely too. Some people might think that therefore i shouldn't have had her, but the truth is, at some point soon she'll be walking and climbing so i won't have to worry so much

[dave50]

The people who are breeding most are the ones who don't work. Every female should be injected with a birth control on reaching puberty until such time that they can prove they are responsible enough to be able to bring up a child in a loving caring environment and be able to support that child financially.

[sandyRoe]

What are grandparents for if not to look after the grandchildren?

[New Judge]

I think that's an exellent idea, dave. Far too many young women who are singularly unable to support and properly rear a child (either emotionally or financially) seem to "fall pregnant" as if it was the same as being struck by lightning (only far more commonly). I'd go along with your idea even more if you were to include young men in your plan as well. Far too many of them seem to impregnate young women and then disappear into the ether leaving the girl to see out her life on benefits in her "affordable" (i.e. free) l accommodation.

"What are grandparents for if not to look after the grandchildren?"

Well Sandy, I might suggest that they are there to enjoy their latter years by doing the things that they were not able to do whilst rearing their children. After all, they've done their bit.

[erin-x]

I really resent you referring to a private nursery as an institution, AOG. As a nursery nurse, the majority of answers on this thread have sickened me. How dare you judge someone for putting their child into a nursery! It is not within everyone's means to afford to stay home from work and be a housewife/husband. As for the grandparent comment, most of the grandparents at our nursery work too! Some others aren't able to babysit their children all day! In some circumstances some don't even have any other family!

At my work, children can come in for breakfast club at 7am and stay until 6pm and a full day costs upto £34. We provide a loving, caring environment which is essentially a home from home. In some cases, we can provide things that they might not get at home, whether it be care based or purely through the experiences available to the children.

I don't understand how you can say that these children are institutionalised if you have never actually been part of a private nursery. I would love to hear how you have come to that conclusion.

[bednobs]

crumbs, £34??? is that anywhere near me :)

[erin-x]

It would be £33 for you Bednobs because the little one is under three!

Move up to the Kingdom and i'll reserve a space for you lol! ;)

[Psybbo]

erin, you are invaluable, as my two know. not working was not an option for me and the private nursery gave them a great start, educationally and socially.

[sherrardk]

By 'if we had stuck to the tradition' do you actually mean 'if the women knew their place and didn't have careers and had to rely on their menfolk to provide for them, etc'?

[erin-x]

That's lovely to hear Syb, thank you :)

I just don't understand how some people get these skewed views of private childcare. It makes me angry.

[jd_1984]

AOG -I will apologise for shortening down your AB name and will address you in full (or "AOG") next time. I also am aware that bednobs didnt need a mediator but I felt that, as we put ours in for 4 days a week, I needed to suggest that this does not mean the child is worse off in any way to a child that gets their parent 24/7.
My partner spends every evening from 5.30pm until bedtime at 7.30pm and 3 full days a week with her son. Being in nursery is helping him become confident around children his own age before he starts school. As we have no children his age in the family, we feel it is important that he mixes with kids his age to help him develop some basic skills before school. He has come on leeps and bounds since doing 4 days a week (he used to do a day and a half until he was 3) he communicates better with children, is learning the importance of sharing, his reading and writing is brilliant. He then gets 3 full days of love and attention from his mum.