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A loveable "villain" or just a plain VILLAIN?
I love his story.
Over to you AOG!
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I love his story.
Over to you AOG!
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Sharingan - and breathe.......... -I'm sure you're not used to anyone challenging you but if this causes you offence and distress then I apologise with all my heart and hope you manage to recover your composure so that we can all enjoy your balanced, mature posts in the future. Peace, Love and Blessings x
Never heard of him before.
I have never fully understood the concept of "the loveable rogue", when extended to out and out criminals, to be honest. At various times, people like Ronnie Biggs and even the Krays have been described as a loveable rogue. Doubt you would feel that way about them if you had been on the receiving end of their crimes.
I can understand people admiring and supporting a Robin Hood character, and I suppose it might be that some of the law abiding citizens might feel some admiration for those that do not allow themselves to be bounded by the law, but the truth is that there is not much to admire.
It is odd though - various criminals have had a kind of fanbase- that guy who went on the murderous rampage up north, blinding that copper - he had a fanbase, seemingly, for some unfathomable reason, as did that specimen in Manchester who shot the 2 women PCs. And not that long ago we had a judge who described a burglar as "brave".
Cannot understand it myself....
I have never fully understood the concept of "the loveable rogue", when extended to out and out criminals, to be honest. At various times, people like Ronnie Biggs and even the Krays have been described as a loveable rogue. Doubt you would feel that way about them if you had been on the receiving end of their crimes.
I can understand people admiring and supporting a Robin Hood character, and I suppose it might be that some of the law abiding citizens might feel some admiration for those that do not allow themselves to be bounded by the law, but the truth is that there is not much to admire.
It is odd though - various criminals have had a kind of fanbase- that guy who went on the murderous rampage up north, blinding that copper - he had a fanbase, seemingly, for some unfathomable reason, as did that specimen in Manchester who shot the 2 women PCs. And not that long ago we had a judge who described a burglar as "brave".
Cannot understand it myself....
I never saw your first response mags but I think, Sharigan has handled herself very well. She should not have to answer anything that is about her father.
Even your apology was spiked
.......Sharingan - and breathe..........
and hope you manage to recover your composure
She seems very composed to me.
Even your apology was spiked
.......Sharingan - and breathe..........
and hope you manage to recover your composure
She seems very composed to me.
Gosh this got touchy didn't it?
I find it interesting NJ thinks you shouldn't grade a burglary
After all the vulnerability of a victim is a clear aggravating case in many prosecutions.
If someone is struggling to get by financially they are clearly more vulnerable to the financial impact of a burglary than someone who is wealthy.
I think that may be behind many peoples thoughts and it's a fair point
That may not be the case psychologically though nor if a stolen item has sentimental value
You can be as rich as Croessus but your father's Patek Phillipe is as irreplaceable as a poor man's father's Timex
I find it interesting NJ thinks you shouldn't grade a burglary
After all the vulnerability of a victim is a clear aggravating case in many prosecutions.
If someone is struggling to get by financially they are clearly more vulnerable to the financial impact of a burglary than someone who is wealthy.
I think that may be behind many peoples thoughts and it's a fair point
That may not be the case psychologically though nor if a stolen item has sentimental value
You can be as rich as Croessus but your father's Patek Phillipe is as irreplaceable as a poor man's father's Timex
It's just blinkered too to assume that everyone who is rich had to somehow lie or cheat their way up there. Not only wrong but deeply unfair to those rich people who have earned their money. Anyway what made him the judge? And what did he do with his money? Nothing helpful to anyone but himself. And even that is doubtful, losing most of it on gambling. A horrible, and deeply misguided, person.
// A horrible, and deeply misguided, person. //
Agreed Jim. It's possibly tempting to see him as some sort of folk hero, especially if you share his pathological hatred of the rich, but when you read what he says, he just comes across as extremely unpleasant. No better than any of the 'rich bastards' he claims to despise.
Agreed Jim. It's possibly tempting to see him as some sort of folk hero, especially if you share his pathological hatred of the rich, but when you read what he says, he just comes across as extremely unpleasant. No better than any of the 'rich bastards' he claims to despise.
Right - WHAT is going on here then!? I leave the thread for a few hours and you're all squabbling and making judgements over each other.
Now STOP IT and shake hands and say sorry! Go On - DO IT! Or there's no dinner and definitely no strawberry tart and custard. Actually, forget it - off to bed the lot of you! (tchoh!)
Now STOP IT and shake hands and say sorry! Go On - DO IT! Or there's no dinner and definitely no strawberry tart and custard. Actually, forget it - off to bed the lot of you! (tchoh!)
Jist plain villain i would say, given that this man was a thief with no apparent concern for his vistims.
I am interested in the concept that rich people are somehow fair game for theft.
A little off-piste but along the same lines, was the aprobation that metal band Metallica received when they suede the file-sharing site Napster for putting up their material for free download.
The furious reaction of a large number of people seized on the fact that Metallica are multi-millionaires and therefore should accept their work being given away for free.
Why? At what point, and by whom (as NewJudge pointed out) is it decided that someone is rich enough to have something stolen from them, and it's OK?
Theft is theft, and there is no sliding scale of derservedness relating to financial wealth. The notion that this man is some sort of 'loveable rogue' because he conducts this Raffles-esque dialogue with the media is entirely spurious, and he should not be given print room in any serious newspaper.
I am interested in the concept that rich people are somehow fair game for theft.
A little off-piste but along the same lines, was the aprobation that metal band Metallica received when they suede the file-sharing site Napster for putting up their material for free download.
The furious reaction of a large number of people seized on the fact that Metallica are multi-millionaires and therefore should accept their work being given away for free.
Why? At what point, and by whom (as NewJudge pointed out) is it decided that someone is rich enough to have something stolen from them, and it's OK?
Theft is theft, and there is no sliding scale of derservedness relating to financial wealth. The notion that this man is some sort of 'loveable rogue' because he conducts this Raffles-esque dialogue with the media is entirely spurious, and he should not be given print room in any serious newspaper.
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