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Mosque Attack
The letters 'EDL' were apparently graffitied onto a wall when this mosque was burnt down. Does anyone else smell a rat? I wouldn't be surprised if radical muslims had done this to implicate the EDL, just like when the EDL attacked the war memorial last week and sprayed 'Islam' on it.
It's definitely either that, or something else.
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It's definitely either that, or something else.
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Quite like the idea that insurance is a defence or mitigation to arson :) Wonder if we can apply that to other offences? I recklessly and illegally drove, writing off various cars when drunk; that's all right, they were insured, weren't they? In fact the replacement cars may be better than the old ones, so everyone wins!
I agree with VHG many are prepared to label the EDL yet have no personal experience of any harm they have done.
They are also prepared to condemn them for using the horrific murder of that young soldier to somehow get their own particular message over.
Well it is obvious when anything like this happens that it is bound to heighten protest, take a hypothetical community who have been asking for the provision of a controlled pedestrian crossing across one of their roads but have been ignored, then one day a child is knocked down and killed at that very spot, wouldn't one think that the protesters would also use such a tragedy to further their protest?
Regarding the burning down of buildings for insurance purposes, it won't be the first time that some Asian restaurants have burnt down, only for a superior restaurant to rise from the ashes.
They are also prepared to condemn them for using the horrific murder of that young soldier to somehow get their own particular message over.
Well it is obvious when anything like this happens that it is bound to heighten protest, take a hypothetical community who have been asking for the provision of a controlled pedestrian crossing across one of their roads but have been ignored, then one day a child is knocked down and killed at that very spot, wouldn't one think that the protesters would also use such a tragedy to further their protest?
Regarding the burning down of buildings for insurance purposes, it won't be the first time that some Asian restaurants have burnt down, only for a superior restaurant to rise from the ashes.
// Quite like the idea that insurance is a defence or mitigation to arson :) Wonder if we can apply that to other offences? I recklessly and illegally drove, writing off various cars when drunk; that's all right, they were insured, weren't they? In fact the replacement cars may be better than the old ones, so everyone wins! //
I did not say it was a defence to arson. I said the insurance (if they have it) will compensate the victims.
I did not say it was a defence to arson. I said the insurance (if they have it) will compensate the victims.
Sorry. I know its a serious thread and all - but a couple of things have caused me to chuckle.
First, the " its definitely either that, or something else" comment from the OP ( no offence), then later in the thread the comment about "inflammatory graffiti" :)
Oh, and the learned discussion about graffitied and graffito was educational. Got to love AB :)
First, the " its definitely either that, or something else" comment from the OP ( no offence), then later in the thread the comment about "inflammatory graffiti" :)
Oh, and the learned discussion about graffitied and graffito was educational. Got to love AB :)
"But two men who hack a soldier to death and then stand there waiting for the police to come and shoot them are never mentioned as being thick. "
I wouldn't describe them as thick because I don't think it's severe enough. 'Deranged' is more in the right league - and ABers have regularly described the attackers in similar terms. Nice try though.
"I agree with VHG many are prepared to label the EDL yet have no personal experience of any harm they have done. "
Some ABers do, actually, as you would know if you had read the thread.
"They are also prepared to condemn them for using the horrific murder of that young soldier to somehow get their own particular message over. "
Because the EDL don't seem to care all that much when members of their own organisation commit murder - a group of 4 in Lincolnshire, and Cameron Schofield in Bolton were all convicted of murder and were all proven EDL affiliates, according to the police.
(details here: https:/
Were the EDL outraged? No. Did they protest? No. Did they make any noise whatsoever over these murders? No. They weren't convenient deaths. They weren't consistent enough with what the EDL says about Britain to be important.
But when a truly horrific murder comes along that happens to suit their agenda, they're all over it like flies on honey.
I wouldn't describe them as thick because I don't think it's severe enough. 'Deranged' is more in the right league - and ABers have regularly described the attackers in similar terms. Nice try though.
"I agree with VHG many are prepared to label the EDL yet have no personal experience of any harm they have done. "
Some ABers do, actually, as you would know if you had read the thread.
"They are also prepared to condemn them for using the horrific murder of that young soldier to somehow get their own particular message over. "
Because the EDL don't seem to care all that much when members of their own organisation commit murder - a group of 4 in Lincolnshire, and Cameron Schofield in Bolton were all convicted of murder and were all proven EDL affiliates, according to the police.
(details here: https:/
Were the EDL outraged? No. Did they protest? No. Did they make any noise whatsoever over these murders? No. They weren't convenient deaths. They weren't consistent enough with what the EDL says about Britain to be important.
But when a truly horrific murder comes along that happens to suit their agenda, they're all over it like flies on honey.
THECORBYLOON , //Anotheoldgit can you tell me what harm a Muslim has done to you personally? I do not mean burning poppies or the like but something that had been done to you on purpose as an individual.//
I’m obviously not AOG, but I really have to answer what is an incredibly silly and ill-considered question. The EDL have never done anything to me ‘personally’, but that’s no reason I shouldn’t despise and condemn what they represent. And before you ask, apart from the odd uninvited ‘grope’, no individual Muslim has ever done anything to me personally, but extremist Muslims did slaughter several of my husband’s colleagues on 9/11 – and on 7/7 they caused me to suffer what I consider to be the worst day of my life - so you might say that has affected me ‘personally’. Do you actually care about other people at all – or do you object only when people do things that affect you personally? This constant apologist rubbish - on both sides - is utterly sickening! They're all madmen!!
I’m obviously not AOG, but I really have to answer what is an incredibly silly and ill-considered question. The EDL have never done anything to me ‘personally’, but that’s no reason I shouldn’t despise and condemn what they represent. And before you ask, apart from the odd uninvited ‘grope’, no individual Muslim has ever done anything to me personally, but extremist Muslims did slaughter several of my husband’s colleagues on 9/11 – and on 7/7 they caused me to suffer what I consider to be the worst day of my life - so you might say that has affected me ‘personally’. Do you actually care about other people at all – or do you object only when people do things that affect you personally? This constant apologist rubbish - on both sides - is utterly sickening! They're all madmen!!
"It wouldn't be the first time that some Asian restaurants has burnt down only for a superior restaurant to rise from the ashes", aog ?
What are we to make of that? That Asians in particular perpetrate insurance fraud by burning down their own buildings and making a profit? Have you have any evidence of that or is it just your own view? On what basis do you form that view? And further, do you suggest , on the basis of that view, that Asians burnt down this building?
I can remember when anti-semites called a fire at at a business "Jewish lightning". Is your logic the same as theirs?
What are we to make of that? That Asians in particular perpetrate insurance fraud by burning down their own buildings and making a profit? Have you have any evidence of that or is it just your own view? On what basis do you form that view? And further, do you suggest , on the basis of that view, that Asians burnt down this building?
I can remember when anti-semites called a fire at at a business "Jewish lightning". Is your logic the same as theirs?
Naomi, I asked that question because in another thread about the English Dense League he said, "Personally all I know about the EDL is the fact that they are said to be against the rise of Islam into this country, that I agree with.
They have not personally done me any harm, no more than say any other robust football crowd might do." It appears to me that in spite of their known views and racist activities, anotheoldgit does not condemn the EDL because they have done him no harm. Given his views on Muslims I feel justified in asking what they have done to him personally.
They have not personally done me any harm, no more than say any other robust football crowd might do." It appears to me that in spite of their known views and racist activities, anotheoldgit does not condemn the EDL because they have done him no harm. Given his views on Muslims I feel justified in asking what they have done to him personally.
THECORBYLOON, AOG, by his own admission, knows as much about the EDL as he knows about radical Islam – and I’m guessing that’s not a lot. Nevertheless, like the rest of us, he doesn’t need the benefit of ‘personal’ experience to decide where his allegiances lie. However, like all the other supporters on both sides, he completely overlooks the fact that neither group merits the respect of any rational person because the whole lot of them are completely off their trolleys and are an disgraceful blight on any society that likes to call itself ‘civilised’.
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