What A Tragedy

[emmie]

two girls killed for dancing, it's just inconceivable that people hate so much they would do this.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/teenage-girls-shot-in-pakistan-were-murdered-for-making-video-of-themselves-dancing-8680394.html

[pixie373]

It is shocking that the reason is to "restore the family name" too. Murder is more acceptable than dancing?

[emmie]

appalling isn't it, no wonder they want to escape that life.

[naomi24]

Madmen!

[emmie]

sadly we have some here like this, who would like nothing better than to keep their wives, daughters under lock and key, bloody hell, sometimes i hate this world.

[tamborine]

More like they bring it here than escape it

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/honour-killing-trial-i-saw-my-parents-murder-shafilea-says-sister-7771335.html

[emmie]

at least here the chances of those caught will go to prison, awful for the girls, women, but perhaps the more who are prosecuted in UK, they will get the message. In Pakistan that is unlikely to happen.

[Gromit]

Why you have posted this again? AOG posted on this story already...

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1255801.html

You contributed to the thread.

[wolf63]

The thing that frightens me is that there appears to have been no mellowing or change in the attitude of these barbarians against women.

The argument is that they have damaged the honour of the family, but they don't see the honour being damaged by murdering defenceless females.

I, like many women, have encountered discrimination or some type or other and 'inappropriate' jokes or statements. It has never been severe enough to bother me. I just can't imagine living in a society where you were lower down the family hierarchy than the family dog.

Will we, as a species, ever change?

[ummmm]

Gromit, maybe Em didn't open the link. I didn't when I read the thread.

[DTCwordfan]

Whilst regrettable and horrendous that this is, the bigger tragedy is the loss of those 19 young firefighters in Arizona who were effectively barbecued when lightning set of a fire and, to try and give themselves a chance, they had dug a deep pit and covered themselves in brush and soil to let the resultant fire pass over them. It didn't. Average age of them 22......

[pixie373]

I'm not sure there's a comparison,dtc. Yes, the numbers were worse, but this was deliberate.

[DTCwordfan]

Probably not, pixie, the commonality is the tragedy, the USA one appalling though for the pure loss of life in attempting to protect their communities.

[ummmm]

It can't be compared imo.

Completely off topic too.

[DTCwordfan]

The title says "Tragedy" - I am making the comparison.

[sir.prize]

That is interesting - Pakistan in the news again for all the wrong reasons!

[naomi24]

DT, a very distinct difference can be drawn between the two ‘tragedies’. One brutally inflicted by the overwhelming and unassailable power of nature – the other inflicted by the brutal and deliberately chosen actions of madmen. No comparison.

[DTCwordfan]

Not quite, naomi.....depends on how you define tragedy and in fact both cases are. The Wilkipedia dictionary is a good starting place:

"trag·e·dy
/ˈtrajidē/
Noun
An event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, such as a serious accident, crime, or natural catastrophe.
A play dealing with tragic events and having an unhappy ending, esp. one concerning the downfall of the main character."

And we have examples of both definitions here, I would surmise.

[naomi24]

Nonsense. These girls were killed by design - not by accident.

[DTCwordfan]

Why nonsense?

Am not saying that what happened in Pakistan wasn't a tragedy....it was. There are other tragedies too though.

[ummmm]

You really can't see why it's nonsense to compare the two?