Latest Poll Means What?

[FredPuli43]

Tories 36% Labour 36% UKIP 7%.(Haven't got Lib Dems) [Sky News] If you were Labour's campaign manager, would you be worried? Why is Labour not doing better? My opinion is that the leader doesn't come across as a leader. That's depressing, considering that Cameron is a very long way from being Churchill (or Lloyd George,come to that, taking a different party). He is a standard pattern, cut out, upper middle.

[naomi24]

Right, thanks Em.

[emmie]

and according to other papers too, well i never, so Ed didn't know, umm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-hands-evidence-of-falkirk-ballotrigging-by-unite-to-police-8690700.html

[ludwig]

// UKIP's supports seems to be slowly dripping away...no surprise there then. //

Ukip are a mid term protest vote for euro sceptics of all parties. They won't be a factor in a general election because Tory and Labour supporters will go back to supporting their usual party after registering their protest.

The main game changer is that disillusioned Libdem and floating voters will tend to gravitate to Labour as others have said.

The Tories main hope is that the prospect of Miliband, Balls, and Harman in charge is such a godawfully depressing one.

[mikey4444]

Thanks for your link Jake...very interesting. Anthony Wells is a well respected voice when it comes to Polls, so anything he says is important.

It shows a possible Labour majority of 84 seats. Sounds lovely but it seems a bit high to me. Also if you click the "more" tab on the 84, its shows no seats for UKIP but 8 for Respect. Not surprised about the zero for BNP-lite of course but it seems highly unlikely that Respect would gain 7 more seats than it has at present. Especially as Galloway has said that he will not fight his seat in Bethnal Green and Bow again. Shows that there still a lot to play for I suppose.

Where can I get the "poll of polls" ? Or is this just used for the run-up to Elections ?

[Svejk]

I think Labour will be in total disarray before the next election.
They appear to be moving to the right while a lot of their supporters want to head left.

[emmie]

none are worth a candle, they have brought in measures that are so alien, so stupid that one wonders do any have any brains at all. Tell the populace a foreign country has weapons of mass destruction, even though there was evidence to the contrary, go to war, kill lots of foreign people, and of course our own soldiers, absurd. tell the populace that the NHS is alive and kicking, well some of it's inhabitants are no longer alive and kicking through dismal mismanagement and buck passing.

noses in the trough, PM and MPs award themselves more money, many have outside interests, so why do they need more, as to local councils slashing services to the bone, elderly, children lose out, all the while patting themselves on the back for their brave decisions, some with large pay packets and water tight pensions, when did some public servants get so greedy and powerful.

spy on your countrymen and women because apparently it's good for us, protecting us from all those terrorists, no it doesn't, it just means you spy on innocent citizens en masse.

polls or not it doesn't matter, there isn't a cigarette paper between them come polling day, UKIP looks like is had it's day, though who knows Farage could do a Lazarus and rise from the dead.
Thank heaven it's sunny, at least something is right with the day

[emmie]

generally i would have said fa g paper, but it got blipped the last time

[dave50]

Labour are now the party of welfare claimants, immigrants and public sector workers ie any group whose lifestyle depends on bleeding money out of the tax payers. Anyone outside these groups should not vote Labour.

[ichkeria]

Generally speaking in hard times electorates become more mean-spirited, xenophobic etc.
How else do you explain 72% support for parties who support saving 0.1% of the welfare bill by means of benefit capping :-) It's cool to go after the poor especially as the "poor" are always someone else.

[mikey4444]

dave50...that is drivel and not worthy of you.

[naomi24]

Mikey, drivel it is not. Like it or not, that is how Labour is now perceived by very many people.

[Quizmonster]

Naomi, are you under some absurd notion that only the supporters of Labour are dyed-in-the-wool ones who will vote for their party regardless? For pity's sake, even a Tory peer - so it is claimed - came up with the phrase "swivel-eyed loons" to describe his OWN party's backers.
One of the swivel-eyed things they invariably do - as I know from my own constituency's inevitable polling results - is vote Tory!

[Gromit]

The old party stereotypes have largely broken down. The rich do not all vote Tory, the poor do not all vote Labour. Anyone still thinking in those terms is behind the times. Thatcher and Blair both won because they targeted and got, the middle class vote.

Cameron went to Eton (many PMs have). That in itself is not a problem. The problem is that he has stuffed the cabinet with clones who all have the same very narrow life experience.

[naomi24]

QM, //are you under some absurd notion that only the supporters of Labour are dyed-in-the-wool ones who will vote for their party regardless?//

No, I am not, but I was asked why Dave isn’t consistently ahead in the polls, and I answered that question. Keep your hair on!

[naomi24]

Ooo, Gromit, I didn't recognise you. Nice picture. ;o)

[Quizmonster]

Naomi, so Clegg's a millstone, eh? Have you forgotten that the only reason Cameron is IN power is the fact that Clegg decided hisoffer was better that the one offered by Labour in 2010? No Clegg...no Cameron is the reality.
I've mentioned it on AB before now, but the Times cartoon at the time showed the front of LibDem HQ with a glowing red light and a note attached to the door reading, "Knock three times and ask for Nickie" or words to that effect
That pretty-well sums up the nature of the relationship!

[naomi24]

QM, the reality is that Labour lost the last election.

[Quizmonster]

Not to anyone with an overall majority, Naomi! And that despite Brown being the most unpopular PM for some time. By the same token, therefore, Cameron did NOT win it!

[ludwig]

Yes QM, it's like when Gordon Brown was NOT elected as either Labour leader or Prime Minister.

[naomi24]

QM, but Labour lost it.