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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.@AoG Still trying to make a case out of thin air, I see.
You said this
"/// However, as a general note, Lunchtime UK would not seek to dismiss any employee due to just one honest mistake.” ///
That of course is not a declaration provided by Lunchtime UK, but only an assumption made by the Cambridge News."
Except, of course that it was, in fact a declaration provided by Lunchtime UK
From the article;
"A spokesperson for Lunchtime UK added: “Following an incident involving Alison Waldock at one of our schools a full investigation was carried out prior to suspending her on full pay.
“A standard disciplinary procedure ensured which resulted in Alison Waldock being dismissed for gross misconduct.
“She was represented by the GMB union throughout the whole procedure and is now entitled to appeal through the tribunal system.
They continued: “Obviously we cannot provide all of the details surrounding the dismissal. However, as a general note, Lunchtime UK would not seek to dismiss any employee due to just one honest mistake.”
So thats a verbatim quote for a spokesperson from the company, rather than, as you claim, an interpretation by the newspaper.
And yes, I do say this fits the DM agenda of plucky Brit disadvantaged by nefarious foreigner. To their lasting credit they were brilliant with the Lawrence case - but that one campaign does not alter the general tone of the paper.
And you still have not answered my question. Why is the background of the father of the child in question germane to the dismissal of the dinner lady? Would it have made any difference were he an upstanding citizen with an unblemished record? More to the point, would the DM have printed it?
And, if it is not germane,as I contend, what would motivate the DM to print the story? The answer is obvious- its juicy scandal it portrays the father/family in a poor light, and is designed to elicit additional sympathy for the dinner lady.
You said this
"/// However, as a general note, Lunchtime UK would not seek to dismiss any employee due to just one honest mistake.” ///
That of course is not a declaration provided by Lunchtime UK, but only an assumption made by the Cambridge News."
Except, of course that it was, in fact a declaration provided by Lunchtime UK
From the article;
"A spokesperson for Lunchtime UK added: “Following an incident involving Alison Waldock at one of our schools a full investigation was carried out prior to suspending her on full pay.
“A standard disciplinary procedure ensured which resulted in Alison Waldock being dismissed for gross misconduct.
“She was represented by the GMB union throughout the whole procedure and is now entitled to appeal through the tribunal system.
They continued: “Obviously we cannot provide all of the details surrounding the dismissal. However, as a general note, Lunchtime UK would not seek to dismiss any employee due to just one honest mistake.”
So thats a verbatim quote for a spokesperson from the company, rather than, as you claim, an interpretation by the newspaper.
And yes, I do say this fits the DM agenda of plucky Brit disadvantaged by nefarious foreigner. To their lasting credit they were brilliant with the Lawrence case - but that one campaign does not alter the general tone of the paper.
And you still have not answered my question. Why is the background of the father of the child in question germane to the dismissal of the dinner lady? Would it have made any difference were he an upstanding citizen with an unblemished record? More to the point, would the DM have printed it?
And, if it is not germane,as I contend, what would motivate the DM to print the story? The answer is obvious- its juicy scandal it portrays the father/family in a poor light, and is designed to elicit additional sympathy for the dinner lady.
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/// What I don't understand is that this Zahid and Rumana Darr ASKED for Alison Waldcot to be dismissed ///
/// the Mail doesn't actually say this, it just attributes the claim to Waldcot. It may still be true, of course. If I'd told the school my child mustn't be given a certain food, and a staff member ignores this, I'd be annoyed too, whether I was an illegal company director or not. ///
*** Zahid and Rumana Darr asked for Alison Waldock to be dismissed ***
Dear me have you also made a mistake?
/// I wonder, in passing, who told the parents? ///
The headmistress, no less.
/// What I don't understand is that this Zahid and Rumana Darr ASKED for Alison Waldcot to be dismissed ///
/// the Mail doesn't actually say this, it just attributes the claim to Waldcot. It may still be true, of course. If I'd told the school my child mustn't be given a certain food, and a staff member ignores this, I'd be annoyed too, whether I was an illegal company director or not. ///
*** Zahid and Rumana Darr asked for Alison Waldock to be dismissed ***
Dear me have you also made a mistake?
/// I wonder, in passing, who told the parents? ///
The headmistress, no less.
"/// I wonder, in passing, who told the parents? ///
The headmistress, no less. "
Thank you. I still wonder why, though? Since the girl hadn't eaten the gammon, it wouldn't seem necessary. But perhaps she felt she should say "Look, please tell your daughter that gammon comes from pigs and she shouldn't touch it, she nearly ate some today."
Perhaps the headmistress had her own doubts about the dinner lady. But that's just speculation. Personally I don't think she will take this case to a tribunal, for whatever reason, and we will not hear any more details.
The headmistress, no less. "
Thank you. I still wonder why, though? Since the girl hadn't eaten the gammon, it wouldn't seem necessary. But perhaps she felt she should say "Look, please tell your daughter that gammon comes from pigs and she shouldn't touch it, she nearly ate some today."
Perhaps the headmistress had her own doubts about the dinner lady. But that's just speculation. Personally I don't think she will take this case to a tribunal, for whatever reason, and we will not hear any more details.
how about this, your child eats halal meat unknowing, you don't agree with the method of slaughter of animals, but it get served without the child's or your knowledge, that i suspect happens much more than say mistakenly giving a child meat she shouldn't eat. No one to protest to, because chances are it's being served in schools with no one's knowledge.
they had been doing that in supermarkets, so why should other outlets be any different. I think the supermarket have to label goods, but not sure how effective it is.
In prison there are clear guidelines on Muslim prisoners, and what they can and cannot eat, i really don't think that schools have made that choice. If you are feeding a thousand children in a senior school, would it be feasible to have non halal and halal...
they had been doing that in supermarkets, so why should other outlets be any different. I think the supermarket have to label goods, but not sure how effective it is.
In prison there are clear guidelines on Muslim prisoners, and what they can and cannot eat, i really don't think that schools have made that choice. If you are feeding a thousand children in a senior school, would it be feasible to have non halal and halal...
emmie, all New Zealand lamb sold in supermarkets is Halal, even though it's not marked.
The majority of lamb and chicken served in schools, hospitals, pubs, at football grounds etc is Halal.
My family choose not to eat Halal so we don't eat beef, lamb or chicken away from home.
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-13 28616/H alal-me at-serv ed-scho ols-hos pitals- pubs-Ve ts-say- Islamic -slaugh ter-cru el.html
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-13 13303/B ritain- goes-ha lal---t ells-pu blic.ht ml
The majority of lamb and chicken served in schools, hospitals, pubs, at football grounds etc is Halal.
My family choose not to eat Halal so we don't eat beef, lamb or chicken away from home.
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