30 Years ?

[anneasquith]

prison sentence of 30 years to Daniel pelka's mother and her partner ? has justice been served ?

[Barmaid]

Prison sentence of LIFE IMPRISONMENT with a minimum term of 30 years before they can be considered for parole.

Yes, justice was served. The only thing the Judge could have done would have been a whole life term.

[hc4361]

Yes

[ummmm]

Yes.

[jno]

sounds good to me. In 2043 we can all debate whether they should get parole.

[anneasquith]

could the judge have given, a whole life term ?

[emmie]

no, they should be left in a small box to rot. both together.

[pusskin]

Yes, but hope they dont get to live that long though.

[Barmaid]

She could have done, but I think it would have been to an appeal.

Law is here:-http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/schedule/21

[pusskin]

On second thoughts, Yes , i hope they live 30 yrs in prison suffering from abuse themselves by other prisoners.

[Barmaid]

would have been *subject* to an appeal

[emmie]

will they serve the full term at Her Majesty's pleasure... or be shipped back to Poland.

[EDDIE51]

Yet again people take the minimum time before a sentence can be reviewed as the release date.
What this means is that the parole board can not even start to consider a review of the case for 30 years. In reality it will be a lot more years than that and they will almost certainly die in prison.
The Judge could not have passed a whole life tariff as they have just been ruled as against the human rights act by the EU parliament.

[emmie]

shame the British taxpayer has to keep them.

[jackthehat]

Yes.

[pixie373]

At least they are out of the way of small children. I'm happy to pay towards that.

[jake-the-peg]

I don't think this case fulfills the criteria for a whole life tarriff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_England_and_Wales#Crimes_where_whole_life_order_are_recommended

[mikey4444]

30 years sound about right.

The verdict I am interested in is the one after the serious care review has been completed, where the school, police and social services explain why they did nothing of any substance to protect this vulnerable little boy.

Of course most of already know what that verdict is going to be, a whitewash, but I would still like to see it written down.

[viv38]

I'm pleased with that sentence - hope it's 30 years of sheer hell.

[mushroom25]

Mikey, you'll find that in every case, the staff involved "followed procedure to the letter" and will have a tick in every relevant box.

[mikey4444]

I'm not sure that you are right mushroom, but if you are then the "procedure" needs adjusting with immediate effect. But I can pretty well guarantee that a whitewash is about to be made.

These child cruelty cases upset me so much. This is, in many ways, even worse than the ghastly Philpotts.